Booch

yeah the onus now isnt as extreme now with a LT....it's still important...both ae...but games has changed where the QB doesn't need that super elite LT now

exactly...ZC was up and down a bit this yr, but so was the whole team....and at QB experience reigns supreme, and is key in going anywhere....Theres no way we move on from him this yr...this team is still set up to more than likely return to the Grey Cup again, and a few minor tweaks with personnel and coaching should again put us on top...I think lessons have been learned in 2022/23.... 2025 is a different beast and should really be of no consequence right now....done right with the transition phase in 2024/2025 we shouldn't skip a beat...barring any unforeseen catastrophic injury epedemic

If he was smart he'd sign another 1 yr deal here...with some starter caveats in it...if ZC falters or goes down...why ruin your luster going into the complete unknown and possible abyss somewhere else....stay where u are comfortable and actually making strides.....one more yr wont kill his earning potential in long run.....running off and being an epic flop elsewhere will tho...Think of James Franklin...looked good in the system he grew into and was showing potential to be next big thing....moved on...fizzled out.... a lil smaller sample size than Dru as Dru has 3 yrs under his belt as opposed to 2 like Franklin...but when he left Edm he looked nothing like he was there in T.O

Brown is somewhat proven with the exact same oline...exact same group of receivers (for most part) the exact same coaches and environment his whole career...and basically the exact same system his whole time in the CFL ...he has proven really nothing other than at times looks pretty comfortable running the only thing he has known in the CFL...that's a big risk...especially going to a team that could be littered with unknowns and sub par talent. He's gonna get his tires kicked but a 400k and beyond contract ..is probably pretty unlikely...and hitching a teams fortunes to him..and basically having nobody behind him is a huge risk...for the team and for him I also not 100 percent sold on him as the heir apparent...or necessarily a future star ripping teams a new one game in and game out and stealing wins with his play..

dunno...it's not out yet so will get back to you if I see one...but if Jackson is on it eating up a DA spot thats an epic fail if we didnt draft, or find and actual Canadian guy to fill the role via free agency or already on the roster...And if Thomas is back taking reps...another fail....Same with Kolo at center....

cause thats what goggle wearers do

yup! lol...I bet we deal with more stupidity next yr sadly...I think as long as Osh at helm its a given....and 2 straight Grey Cup losses....is more telling than then previous 2 wins...my opinion so feel free to flame away

Why would he tho ..he wouldn't crack that starters lineup...he knows he has easy access to a starter spot here..whether earned/deserved or not

Too bad we didnt Solid depth signing for teams and rotation...but if we can't do better for that position than not sure what our staff is doing other than standing pat and not striving to be our best team He's also 27 next TC so is/was that his ceiling? If so...we def can be better

This yr will be a semi transition phase so that 2025 is also a semi transition phase where some hefty sms weight is shed to allow us to replenish a few spots via free agency that are immediate upgrades to augment the core. Is ZC part of that in 2025...i sure team thinks/hopes so right now..but 2025 grey cup is 40..41 games away...and a lot can happen between now and then..and interesting things/options can fall in your lap too..making some decisions easier. My only concern and will prob get a lot of backlash is MOS himself and his history and track record now of not giving team beat chance to win game in game out with whom he chooses to keep. ..and whom gets to play

doesnt mean its not already done....just not publicly announced

didnt even know they increased an extra game....shows how much of a **** I give about the NFL bs league

removing Thomas...Briggs...Benson....Darby...Kolo....more than covers any bumps...especially with 6 game money being diverted to 2023 bonus for 2024 I could see Brown re-upping for one yr...with a pile being given this yr, and his base next not being that cumbersome, and having a per start or performance clause included

they played 14 already no?...so how u get 3 games left?

2 games left...hardly a big winfall but better than a kick in knackers

Some people here put too much weight into age on olineman...as long as they aren't just fat turds with zero mobility (Dan Clarks) then mid 30's isn't an issue unless they constantly in the tub. Eli wasn't signed for 3 yrs to be a back-up...The gig is his next yr and likely we dont bring Kolo back. Gray is the perfect 6th lineman as he can play all the spots, so I can see Dobson getting the legit opportunity to un-seat him. And a guy signed now doesn't guarantee a spot come June either...well shouldn't and hiopefully Oshea has learned that lesson...Maybe Neuf becomes the extra guy as he is versatile as well...I just hope this spring there is legit competition in camp and no gifts and loyalty plays this yr

Yup...never liked the Rourke hype train from day one..also he has a pretty high opinion of himself which isnt translating down south And our Ford...he either got real poor career advice...or he truly thinks his turds don't stink...there are thousands of guys just like him...and better...waiting for a workout ...born..bred...trained in the U.S who's phone will ring long before his...nothing about his measurables and minimal game film from college and 1 yr up here screams gotta sign this gem...total waste of a yr...he was never getting a PR spot I hope he does as don't need the boot licking incessantly up here Strev yup...he will be up here next yr...he's done down there

Nothing wrong with a shot chasing a dream...u get one shot...lingering around clinging to.it when it's obvious it not gonna happen...as your career and earning potential erodes away tho is another matter...some guys just can't accept it just ain't gonna happen...is it blind stubborness....poor career advice from agents and those in your orbit...or a combo?

**** quit nitpicking...roughly give or take...from what I heard bc was gonna pay him 750k per...so he made 55 percent of what he could have...if throwing away 350k+/- to chase a dream where he behind the 8 ball is wise then so be it...but it ain't...he will never get a legit shot...with the injuries this yr and poor play the fact he never got scooped tells one all they need to know...time to give it up and make nice coin in canada

And could have made more than that up here...so...if it's the same prospect next yr...which it likely will the smart move is to sign a big deal up here...and perform....plain and simple... Always said if it was about dollars and cents ...and sense...any fringe guy who doesn't make an active roster out of camp...with no threat of being dropped will make more money signing a deal in Canada and being a big fish in small pond Desjarlais 2 yrs ago....Ford this yr ..and Rourke are prime example...Rourke made some money...half of what he could have..the other 2 made diddly and pissed away the yr...tho Desjarlais smartened up near the end...Ford didnt...and he won't get squat for offers this spring

Exactly...if not for his unfortunate cfl gig...he'd be not playing anywhere...screw him...he showed nothing anyway when he faced real defences in Canada anyway...

Why would u go there for anything in general?

thats just a good representation of the plight that is T.O....Embarrasing

yeah watch the narrative change and he is a key cog in restoring culture there hahaha But really for what reason would he want to go there to start up coaching....really what could he even offer at this juncture as well....and id numbnutz saying that cause Mace is there and AH will follow?..a coach he prob had minimal interactions with?...But hey I have no issues...one more unqualified and minimal experience coach on that staff the better to keep that turd train chug chugging along haha

MTL played great when needed....we didnt.....and we got out coached....and we also hamstrung ourselves with poor roster moves.....thats why we lost...plain and simple...we will be back, and hopefully now after 2 yrs of failure, and a few common themes that contributed to the losses....our coaching staff has learned and figured out a few of the flaws...if not...I expect the same kind of disappointments even after another good yr