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Yes, Calgary does present a bigger obstacle to us than BC.

You have not shown anything that suggests it can't happen. The only thing you have demonstrated is that the standard rookie contract is a 2+1. Nothing in there that states a player can't be extended in his option year. Only that if a team chooses to pick up the option on the 3rd without an extension that there are pay limits in effect. I would be shocked if a team couldn't extend a player in his option year. I can't see how the union would ever let that happen. It would make zero sense. I don't thing you understand the definition of letting a team hang around. Of course, it's not a conscious decision. Letting a team hang around simply means that you didn't play your best game and it allowed an inferior team opportunities they otherwise wouldn't have had.

It will be as vanilla as vanilla can be.

Biggie at WIL to keep him starting but out of the trenches so he doesn't get injured.

I doubt he is mayor for 8 years. From insiders I know in the Manitoba PC party they are fairly convinced that if/when Stefanson gets dumped he will be a strong contender and wants the job. Given that Stefanson is likely leading the party to get routed in the next election, she will likely be pressured out of the leadership. I could see Gillingham taking a run at that time.

Gillingham is a small c conservative, and a guy I wish would have run for the PC leadership. He will make a fine mayor. He is well spoken, not controversial, and isn't a whack a doodle.

Sure both organizations look bad. However, one is risking their season and the other wasn't therefore one team's potential mistake is highly magnified.

I am not even sure how to respond to that. Some games far superior teams let inferior teams hang around all the time. Teams put and take their foot on/off the gas pedal all the time. It is quite literally how most upsets happen.

In one game they kind of played us close. I will admit that much. Same could be said about Ottawa at the beginning of the season.

I just find that kind of argument to be such a straw man argument. If the other team had played better and made more plays when they had the chance they would have won. That is literally the difference between winning and losing in every football game ever played. Nah.... we let them hang around.

Seems you are correct about Kongbo being a FA on his return. However, it is because the Bombers had a handshake agreement to release him after his first season to look at NFL opportunities. Only way he would sign I guess.

Shepley opted out of his option year of 2020 when the season was cancelled. Had 2020 season happened he was obligated to return to the RIders if he wanted to continue in the CFL. All players with their option year landing in 2020 were given that right when the season was cancelled. His rookie contract would have expired at the end of 2020, so you are correct that last year or this year he was a gun for hire if he returned. The option year did not carry over beyond 2020 for those that left for the NFL in their option at the end of 2019. CFL teams retaining rights on those leaving in the option year of their contract is in black and white in the CBA. The CFL had closed the option year window for a number of years and you could only go to the NFL when released, or at the expiry of your contract but a few years ago they put the option window back in under the old terms of teams retaining your rights until the end of your option. They felt this would help recruitment when other pro leagues began to emerge and compete for our prospective players.

He would be required to report under his current contract. I would think at that point the Lions would seriously consider extension but don't have to until the offseason. And we retained his rights after his first NFL foray, he was not a FA on his return to us, his only CFL option that year was us. Desjarlais signed his rookie contract before the 2+1 provision existed. His rookie deal was a 2 year deal.

Yes, he would be BC property if he was signed by the NFL prior to next season, released by the NFL while CFL season was still underway. All 3 left for the NFL as their current CFL contracts were expiring. If they left during their option year NFL window allows, the CFL team maintains their rights for the remainder of the CFL contract. They have 10 days after their release to either get picked up by another NFL team, be placed on a PR, or the contract comes back into effect and they effectively cannot sign elsewhere in the NFL and are expected to return to their CFL team.

Nope. Contract goes back to CFL club if you sign in the NFL window. Kongbo left at the expiry of his contracts. Shepley returned to the RIders after his first NFL try, as they held his rights, and then this time left at the expiration of his contract with the Riders. They are released as a formality.

Thanks for the info, I do believe that the team has the OPTION to sign him to a new contract as long as it represents an extension. Kind of what option year means. If they want to pick up the option on his 3rd year they are also free to do that as well.

He has an NFL option window just like every other player. He would only be released if NFL interest came outside that window. They cannot lock him down now.

If they re-up him he forgoes the NFL window. That's the reason for doing it. However, if they don't his rights remain with BC on his current contract.

Doesn't matter. What they couldn't do is raise his pay for this year as he is on his rookie deal and that must run for 2 years. The third year of his contract can be ripped up and he can sign an extension.

That is only in effect for 2 years. They can terminate the contract and sign him to a new contract after this season as standard CFL contracts for first time players are designated at 2 years.

Quite likely. Sad but true. Sending out a guy with a busted wheel is not particularly smart.

I know there is a max amount on rookie contracts for drafted players, but it was my understanding that was only in place for the first 2 years.

Karma? How does us beating them all 3 games have anything to do with karma? Calgary should not have won any of those games, they were not the better team in any of them? In fact, if you believe in karma the argument would be that we should cream them by 20+ points because the closeness of our 3 meetings is not reflective of how we outplayed them every single game. He is under a rookie contract next year. It would be monumentally stupid of the Lions to not up him in the offseason but they don't actually have to do so. BC is going to lose to Calgary. Calgary is the more well rounded team. Meh...we beat them all 3 and that will be in their head as well.

Ellingson is the perfect illustration of why it is stupid to rush players back. Not sure why you are arguing that it is a good idea? Rourke will probably get re-injured, doesn't deserve it, but it is a likely scenario. I don't agree that Rourke deserves to be re-injured, but the LIons rushing him back will likely pay the price for it and deservedly so. At any rate, they don't have much hope of winning in the playoffs with or without Rourke.

Moncrief got torched regularly by OCs around the league in coverage. Demski lit him up for like 5 TDs just by himself.