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The guy spent years as a CFL QB working under many different offensive coordinators, he has spent time as a qb coach presumably working with still more offensive coordinators including on of the best just this past year in Cortez. That to me is a guy who has seen enough different perspectives on offense in the CFL to not be tied to any one thing. Here's the thing with Khari, I want him back just cause he's a Bomber not a ******* Rider. Get him back where he belongs. Yeah he might not end up being a great offensive coordinator, but then again he might be, where as Bellefool has a lot of past experiences with the job to look at and say "not very impressive at all" Two points I guess I have: Re: CFL QB experience. It's a dangerous game to put that much emphasis on that. The easy example is that Gretzky was a terrible choice. Even if I ignore that thinking, his experience isn't likely that much of a differentiating factor from other players like Maas or Marcus Brady, for example, and I could make the argument that both were more cerebral players than Khari even though Khari was the far better QB than either of them. Re: Bomber/Rider. Personally I just want to win football games. I want the coaches here to be ones that give the team the best chance of achieving that goal. Hiring Bomber legends is not likely to lead to success if you base their resumé on their playing days here.

There is one more thing I've been thinking about... For those that want Khari: his experience (and only years of leading an offense) were under MB. So basically, if you want Khari, why would you not want MB? You could make a fairly strong argument I think that MB taught Khari quite a bit, so much like how Stubler is viewed as the veteran teacher for the defense, MB could be the veteran teacher for the offense. Basically we hired the teacher and not the pupil. Now personally I thought Khari's resumé was pretty darn thin and was hoping for some wildcard candidate over both of them, but I'm not sure how we get Khari >> MB or even Khari > MB.

I like that we have an experienced mind on the offensive side of the ball now, but experience is only good if it comes with proven success too. This is probably the first Bomber offseason move I disagree with.

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Here's to hoping this isn't true...

I think we made out okay today. Without seeing the lists it was hard to know what to expect. I'll miss Miles the most, I think he could be really, really good. Losing Green is a laugher and Kohlert stings but it wasn't some major hit. I would expect Etienne to re-sign here, plus Walters knows Canadian talent. I have confidence we will handle the ratio well this year.

How will we recover from this devastating loss? Who will decide heads or tails at the coin toss? Shoot we're never gonna know which one to call.

So disappointed we lost Miles, I think we probably protected a few more defensive guys and just gambled that no one wants people from our craptacular offense. Ottawa did well at QB, Glenn and DeMarco are a solid 1-2 as veteran-young'un. I would say we are in prime position to get Collaros still.

I wonder who is our Plan B...

What else would have preferred him to do in this short time? We can only judge him on his actions. Right now the sample size is small, but it is positive.

I thought it was a pretty good listen. I am just really, really curious to see them round out the staff.

Well hopefully the dominoes start falling.

Also, does anyone else think Benevides maybe isn't the easiest guy to get along with? Seems a little weird that two guys turned down opportunities on an established team with a proven QB. If people are gonna speculate about the Bombers, these questions should be asked about the Lions.

This is interesting. If we did interview Khari, which appears likely, it would also then appear likely that O'Shea wasn't thrilled with him. And you know what? I'm good with that, while he may be an up-and-comer, it's not like the track record is that great. I am more just interested to see who we get since the race is on for these spots and teams...

I don't care who it is as long as they make the reffing better. It has been crap in this league for far too long.

Re: Philosophies. The comparison to Greg Marshall in my opinion has strengths and weaknesses. For one, I think Marshall's been overvalued for quite some time. Maybe it's because I don't remember his work in the early '00s but for as long as I can remember, he hasn't put forth many strong defenses. Like Kavis Reed, I would suggest that he is working off of his reputation more than actual results. Can you make the same argument with Stubler? Probably, but I don't think it's as strong. He's had more recent success, though I realize 'success' is hard to define here and will vary by each person's definition. Perhaps some of the philosophies are similar to Marshall's, but he just executes better. I can't say I'm a fan of the philosophy (I much prefer an aggressive, blitzing defense for CFL offenses) but I think his ideas have merit.

You know, you gotta wonder about Benevides in BC. Getting rid of or mutually parting with two very proven and successful coordinators. Not saying he was wrong to do it, but you have to wonder how he expects to upgrade there. Wonder if Barron Miles will be the top choice.

Are we sure he will switch our base formation? I don't think that is a guarantee. I love 34 defenses though.

Something I found interesting on a Google search: That was after the playoff loss (link). Regardless after giving it some thought this is a pretty solid hire for O'Shea. Stubler has a proven track record (one that has more success than failure) and one that has a lot of experience in this league (valuable considering how young this whole staff is). While O'Shea is a huge wild card, I would argue he can't possibly be any worse than Burke and so this makes it 2/2 in upgrades at the coaching staff spots right now in my opinion.

Kirk Penton ‏@PentonKirk19m I'm hearing Rich Stubler will be the next #Bombers defensive co-ordinator. Makes sense given his history with O'Shea.

Initial take: Holy crap. That would be an impressive hire. Second take: His stock has seemingly taken a hit since his Toronto days (and prior to that I guess). And is he only leaving BC because of his relationship with O'Shea, or is there more to it?

I have it on good authority that one half of the jersey is RED and the other half is BLACK. The colours are known as REDBLACK RED and REDBLACK BLACK.

I think LaPo would have been my hire there.

via Kirk Penton http://www.winnipegsun.com/2013/12/04/oshea-goes-straight-to-work-building-blue-bombers-coaching-staff Miles is interesting. All three are former players, which intrigues me too. I'm sure its just coincidence (player-turned-coach are nothing new) but I wonder if he's targeting them more. I don't know about anyone else, but I have soured a bit on Khari as OC. With a head coach that has a defensive and special teams background, I am worried Khari isn't ready to be the top offensive mind on a football team yet. I'm not saying it won't work out (maybe he's great, he did well in Hamilton under MB) but I want someone...stronger, if that makes sense. Someone that's been around a little longer, not necessarily someone that has more OC time than Khari. It's a grey criteria, I know, but its been nagging at me.

The year that Kavis Reed was our DC our defence was pretty good. So I am curious as to why he would be a no for you? What were you watching in 2010? Cleo Lemon made Kavis Reed look like a fool every time he played us. In 2010 the Bombers were the second best team in yards allowed and had the best defence against the pass. (Again, in terms of yards allowed.) In terms of points per game the #1 team gave up 24 points a game where as the Bombers gave up a whopping 3 more points on average per game. That's with a pile of crap for an offence that often did not leave the defence in great position. When Kavis Reed was here, he did a good job. Again, I just don't understand why he would be a definite no for someone. Personally I think Kavis Reed has been tremendously overrated throughout his career. It's not like he's creating great defenses (or STs) where ever he goes.