Brandon

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Did you not read where I said I think it's 50/50 fault on both parties. Did you not read where I said the police bungled the situation. I clearly said that the actions of both parties lead to this consequence. Society today always just wants to blame someone instead of holding everyone accountable for their own actions. Nobody deserves to go through the trauma of shooting someone and nobody deserves going through the trauma of being shot. Had both parties chose a better path then nobody would of got hurt. It's really weird that society HAS to blame someone 100% instead and make one person a victim and one person a villain. As per the 2nd part the frequency is not high, it's the optics because of the media and because people fixate on agendas. You do realize that police shoot more white people then black people. The black on black crime (shooting and otherwise) is insanely higher then police shootings. But that isn't as juicy to glamorize for the media and people to complain about. That wont sell stories and it's not as fun to complain about because a criminal shooting an innocent person is not something controversial and won't cause any sort of emotional reaction for people. To me I find that f'd up because I don't care if you are Policeman held in high regard or a low live thug held in low regard... nobody should be shooting anyone. It's just weird that people will fixate on a situation like this (which is bad) but then turn a blind eye when the USA bombs a tonne of innocent people to stop terrorism. It's weird that people are not protesting the streets and rioting over crimes that are way more frequent (such as children being raped, people being robbed/shot, massive massive corruption in politics)...

Just because you don't share the same opinion does not mean you are correct. At least I provided valid points to make up my opinion rather then simply jumping on a bandwagon and keeping a close mind. As I said before... could the end result of this situation been different (better) had the guy followed orders and didn't put himself at risk by doing something foolish. The answer is clearly yes.

They definitely bungled it, I have no idea what the training is for that area. In Canada it would of been handled differently I'd imagine. I wouldn't say this is Cowboy attitude and abuse of authority... this situation looks 100% of people who were either not trained properly or completely f'd up and made a panic decision. Cowboy authority would of had them beating the guy to a pulp before he even had a chance to walk to the van. Why shoot him that many times, most police are trained to shoot to stop the immediate threat. Their has been times (not sure about in Winnipeg) where people hopped up on drugs had to be shot over 5 times to bring them down. In this case my opinion (I could be wrong) is that the officer full blown panicked. Did not handle the situation good at all. As for risk an officer takes... if an officer were to take unnecessary risks like you suggest then eventually that officer is going to die. That would never work.

It goes back to decisions made in a matter of seconds... like I said it's super easy to analyze a situation from the couch and to say I would of done this and that.... when you have seconds to make a life or death judgement call and a guy who you think is dangerous is ignoring you and reaching into a car for which you have zero knowledge of what it contains... it's easy to throw stones without being in that persons shoes. No I have not been in that situation myself and would never want to be, but at least I'm aware that it's a really hard job and you have to act on the fly. I think people forget and watch to many movies or tv shows and realize that real life doesn't work the same as on tv. You can't always talk it out or read peoples minds on what they are going to do. You can't predict that a guy is going to be unarmed and just sit in his car peacefully. I acknowledged that they didn't handle the situation correctly and should of tackled him (IMO) before he reached the car. I am simply stating that the guy who was shot should of been wise enough specially with everything on on lately to listen and not do something foolish. I'm not glad that he was shot and think the situation is just poor all around... I'm just in the belief that people need to take responsibilities for their actions. For example If I was in a situation where I was in my car and the police say put your hands up with guns drawn ... I would be smart enough to realize.... I should listen and not made a quick movement for my glove box to get my registration or something else.... if I were to get shot for going to my glove box and ignoring orders then I believe I'm also at fault for that situation.

I agree he definitely flubbed the situation and does hold responsibility for not acting sooner. But answer me this.... would the guy get shot in the back had he listened to the police and avoided turning his back and reaching into his car for who knows what. He definitely holds some responsibility for the situation. I don't understand why people can't accept that sometimes people on both sides need to be held accountable.

If the cop was racist then why didn't he shoot him in the face beforehand? Silly comment for you to make.

When you have seconds to make a judgement call it's easier to say don't do this from the comfort of your couch where you have time to analyze.

But what if he has a gun under the drivers seat and turns around and shoots you in the face... how do you know that he doesn't have this? Like I said easier said from the couch then in the heat of the moment.

But how are you sure that he is unarmed and also he is resisting when he is not listening to the police and following orders to stand down. How is the policeman suppose to know that this guy doesn't have a gun in the drivers seat. I don't think the Police handled it well and probably should of tazed or knocked him down before he reached the car but its so easy for you to say this kind of stuff on your computer chair rather then in the heat of the moment. I say blame is easily 50/50.... police should of tackled him before he reached the car and the guy should of listened. Easy situation that could of been avoided.

Quite breathtaking to watch such large crowds of people uniting against corruption. Sends a powerful message. This is how to properly protest.

What would be awesome is if they aired older games and had some players from each of the teams going over the game giving breakdowns and explaining what they were thinking at certain points.

It's unfortunate that they don't own the rights to all of the old broadcast games because it would of been nice if they aired classic games from over the years.

My fuzzy memory was that most of the people were happy with the trade because we realized that Strev wasn't fully ready (or LaPo was crippling him) and that Nichols was not going to be our QB ever again.

Lol at no point have I ever said Trump is not a racist. At no point have I said racism is a good thing. I'm defending the fact that people like yourself freely throw the racist label which diminishes true racism. I can easily scrutinize literally anyone who has ever voted or supported any company by buying a product which supported terrible behaviors. I'm amazed at how people are against racism but clearly have no problem supporting terrible business practices. I find it hilarious that some people can throw a stone and call a voter a racist but then meanwhile type on their IPhone in which dozens (hundreds?) of child and adult laborers are forced in terrible and dangerous conditions while being paid peanuts. I challenge anyone who disputes this and challenge them on why this is acceptable. Massive hypocrites on here who love to only judge when it fits their own agenda.

Now if Trudeau bails out some scummy American company in the next while.....

Does TSN have archived streams? Also I'm not sure this site would want illegal links of streams posted on the forums?

Have you ever purchased electronics or clothing from China or any other third world country? So just because you don't have a factory yourself then you do not technically support slave labour right? That is assuming that you do not publicly support places in where children and adults are abused and worked like dogs for peanuts right?

So did you vote for Trudeau because that would make you a racist who supports black face? Who said everyone who voted for Trump are voting purely for him and not for his political party? I'm guessing every lady who purchased clothing from one of the many of Nygard brands automatically makes all those ladies pedophiles and rapists because they purchased and supported from a man who was openly known as being a pedo rapist. I guess we are all fans of slave labour by purchasing all of our goods from China and other third world countries... we knowingly buy all of these goods despite the fact they come from factories and workers that are paid terribly low and work in terrible conditions. For the folks who voted Obama, Bush Sr & Jr, Clinton etc.... I guess they are all child murderers because tonnes of innocent children (and adults) were slaughtered during the various wars out East for which any of those Presidents could of avoided. I guess every Catholic/religious person on here are clearly automatically Anti LGBT+ and Anti Abortion. Because it's not possible that some people can be religious and open minded at the same time. See how easy it is to accuse anyone of being something bad. It's fun to **** on Trump supporters I get it, but to call them a racist by default... that's just trying to hard to look cool. If you are going to say everyone who voted for him is a racist... then I guess that also makes you some sick demented human that loves to watch children get bombed, loves to work the less fortunate for pennies to enjoy your luxuries and possibly love to support Epstein-like people because you wanted to buy old women clothing for your mother.

You can say that about almost any type of group (religion, ethnic background, rider fans, etc .) The Westboro Baptist crazies are like only 150 in size which is tiny yet many people pigeon hole other religious people with the same brush.

I wouldn't accuse someone for being racist unless they did something racist themselves. The term is being thrown around way to liberally these days. It's watering down the real issues with racism when people keep abusing the word. If someone voted for Trump I would call them stupid because of the obvious many reasons.

Maybe some people vote for the party and not for the man in charge? This happens in every election.

Sometimes people vote for the lesser of two evils. Just because someone voted for a candidate doesn't mean they align 100% with their beliefs. Yes Trump is pure evil and a racist , I wouldn't call anyone who voted him a racist by default though. If I were to vote for Wab Kinew I don't support women beaters... maybe I support his views on putting money into education.

My experiences in life have been that some people (not all) use religion as a "Making excuses for bad behaviour card" where they can negate any bad things that they do by using religion. Usually I find the people who preach loud are the ones who are more of a "poser". I know several very religious people and they never shout and scream for attention using religion.