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but did he kill himself too? Sure looked to me like he was out on his feet after that collision.

give the injuries we've already seen at receiver this year do we really want to go forward without depth?

I love dominant defense so much more than dominant offense.

Yup Bailey takes Johnsons spot and does everything better. Would help a ton. Lucky I think added a calming influence to the O. Needed that shot of experience.

Couldn't have said it better myself....

Well let's find out if collaros struggles maybe.... don't get me wrong, if we get last week collaros all fine and dandy, but if we get the guy who has been there the early season let's see how much is him how much is the team.

When you're paid like collaros is it hurts the rest of the team so you better be able to perform without some pieces in other areas.

Age is a mother ******... that and not changing out the replacement level piece for one of the draft picks you made sure to hold onto throughout the years...

Well if someone gets hurt they'll change it, until then you're not allowed to make roster moves.

Now imagine this team with a better pass rush....

Jones goes in and is sticking people, laying hits... bighill is getting run over... Jones a d Wilson as lbs plz and thanks. And let's see what ayers can do. Bighill has no future. Yeah to me looked like a shot to the ribs, maybe hip. Surprised it's not a thorax injury to be honest.

That does a disservice. We can talk about both. The defense is playing pretty good but it could be better if they shore up the middle of the D. Would take some pressure off the offense if they get better.

Let's put it this way... I'd use less Canadians on the Dl and Ol before I took Kramdi out.

He is nowhere near as bad as you think. Allstars? Nope. As a 7th starting Canadian fine. Problem is we have about 3 or 4 7th starting Canadians.

Collaros does that remarkably often. Just takes his sweet time getting up. The fact they let him run the next play and then took him out is just more ineptitude on the cfls part.

Nah man Collaros was good that game, even in the face of constant pressure up the middle taking a **** kicking. How many sacks did Toronto wind up with? They had 4 scoring drives taken away because receivers or running backs coughed the ball up, plus the 3rd and 1 poor spot at the end. Forget the score, forget the numbers whatever they were, it was the most accurate and in control Collaros looked all season. Even vs. Calgary he still needed some highlight reel catches to look good. Didn't need that vs. Toronto.

But collaros was good this game, even the pick wasn't his fault, he threw it to demski but the command centre pooched the review. Best game of the year collaros played and if he plays like that the rest of the year I am 100% ok with that.

They could try making one change and see what happens... and if still problems make another. That's what infuriates me about this season. We can see the same problem spots every game and they don't do anything about it.

The order of scapegoating goes players -> coordinators -> head coach -> gm.... we got lots or players we can scapegoat before the coordinators start to feel heat.

Demski was wearing the DB like a backpack before the ball got there. I would dearly love to hear an explanation of how it was not PI.

How come? Are we really going to blame Pierce for the lack of receiving talent and OL talent and massive deterioration of Collaros play? Pierce didn't call all those fumbles on Saturday.

Why does everyone want the bc offensive coordinator? They've failed every year in the playoffs because it's fairweather football. Passing yards go brrrrrrr though right?

I am a fan of that kid. He just stands out in a good way so often. I dunno if he's got a real high ceiling, but even as a contributing piece he is a dandy.

you know how I know Bighill is cooked? He got absolutely TRUCKED by Carey of all people. Yeah bighill made a good play on the 3rd down yardage, but he is not a good player at this point.