TBURGESS

I'm very much a win is win and a loss is a loss person. I'm also a 'How did we manage to win or lose' person.

Adarias Bowman

The missed FG, wasn't so much a break as it was 3 Bomber mistakes in a row followed by a great play by Banks. First Dressler didn't go on the field and he's the freaking holder. Second, O'Shea didn't call a time out when he saw the mistake. Third our "Most accurate FG in history who's making 170K" missed. Hamilton did get a huge break when both teams were offside on the TD. I never said otherwise. The good: We won. We got 6 (7) turnovers. We got a historic "Madden Glitch" TD. We got a lucky bounce back. We took advantage of their mistakes. We won TOP. The bad: Only winning by 4 after 6 (7) turnovers and we're not likely to have another 6(7) turnover game this year.

Edmonton's putting up more than 30 points a game so far this year. We've maxed out at 28. We better hit a couple of those deep balls this game or it'll be a long night.

I'm happy we won, but I'm not blind to the reasons why we won and I don't think this kind of win is repeatable very often. I don't see anyone calling Willy total garbage, a bum, or ignoring his accomplishments (279 yards, 8.7 yards per completion). I do see them commenting on his fumble and his inability to hit an open receiver deep because they're part of the whole picture. Some fans love to ignore the mistakes and gloss over the amount of luck and bad play by the other teams that's involved in our wins. That's fine, but they go too far when they use their view of things to complain about other posters who see both the good and the bad.

Actually 6 turnovers + a lucky bounce on a Kickoff + the Madden glitch catch + a dropped TD catch by Hamilton, but I get your point.

Nice to see a win. I don't care how ugly it was. Masoli fumbles 3 times and throws 2 ints. He was THE difference maker tonight and that's not to take anything away from the Bombers. Macho Harris' KO recovery was the play of the game for us, with a high five to Leggett's pick 6. Gotta say I was chewing my nails in the 4th after Willy's fumble, but it turned out nice again.

Way too many grainy black and white photos... shows how long ago we were really good.

The refs can't handle simple black and white holding calls. I for one, don't want them to have to decide if each one had an impact on the play. I don't think 'cheating', which holding basically is, is OK as long as it doesn't effect the play. The players won't know when it's OK to hold and when it's not and the fan forums will waste tons of time debating which call should or shouldn't have been made.

Folks wouldn't complain about the same things over and over, if the Bombers just stopped doing the same things over and over and over and over.

It's more like there are way more bad things than good things lately so an even discussion looks like bitching to those who only want to discuss the good things.

Disagreeing with what the Bombers do and disagreeing with other posters isn't the same as being angry. Progress and process don't matter until they result in wins.

I don't care one lick about progress.... I want a win. I'm completely over 'trying real hard', 'watching the film' and the 'these guys are good professionals'. Win or make some changes.

25 of the 36 points we've scored have been in the 4th quarters of the two games we played when the games were out of reach. 7 were from a blocked FG. That means the offense has scored 4 points in 2 games when the game was in doubt, all of them in the 3rd quarter against Montreal.

JUSTIN DUNK's take... Find out what showings produced moves on the Quarterback Index. 1) MIKE REILLY EDMONTON ESKIMOS (LAST WEEK: 1) The bye week gave Reilly and the Eskimos lots of time to recover from any training camp fatigue and extra time to prepare for the return of Chris Jones to Edmonton. 2) BO LEVI MITCHELL CALGARY STAMPEDERS (LAST WEEK: 2) That’s more like the No. 19 we’re used to seeing. Calgary’s franchise pivot guided the offence to 36 points in three quarters against Winnipeg, throwing for 309 yards and two touchdowns. 3) DARIAN DURANT SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS (LAST WEEK: 4) More than a year after suffering a torn Achilles, Durant took the field in a regular season game and looked sharp, especially when you consider that he’s in a new offence too. The 33-year-old threw the ball with authority and moved around well when needed. 4) TREVOR HARRIS OTTAWA REDBLACKS (LAST WEEK: 6) Just like everyone thought: after two weeks in the 2016 season Harris leads the CFL in passing yards and touchdown throws. Remember, he was supposed to be on the sidelines watching Henry Burris run the offence. 5) KEVIN GLENN MONTREAL ALOUETTES (LAST WEEK: 5) Montreal lost S.J. Green in the second quarter and Duron Carter in the third, which took the two best receivers out of the equation against Ottawa. Green’s done for the season with a shredded knee and Carter could miss some time if a suspension is handed down. Those happenings are big blows to Glenn and the Als passing attack. 6) RICKY RAY TORONTO ARGONAUTS (LAST WEEK: 7) It seems as though Ray is easing into the season. He only completed 13 passes in Riderville as part of Toronto’s victory. Vintage Ray has yet to appear. 7) JONATHON JENNINGS BC LIONS (LAST WEEK: 8) In windy conditions at Tim Hortons Field, Jennings stayed calm, made some plays and never forced a throw. That led to an impressive road win in a hostile environment and against a stingy Ticat defence. 8) DREW WILLY WINNIPEG BLUE BOMBERS (LAST WEEK: 9) When the game has been on the line in two starts to begin the campaign there has been little sign of Willy. Conversely when the outcome has been all but decided he’s racked up some yards – that cannot continue to happen. It’s time for Willy to prove to us that he’s capable of being a legitimate starter. 9) JEREMIAH MASOLI HAMILTON TIGER-CATS (LAST WEEK: 10) Hamilton’s current No. 1 signal caller was erratic and made a costly mistake on the Ticats’ initial drive in the third quarter that allowed BC to take control of the game. 10) TRAVIS LULAY BC LIONS (LAST WEEK: 11) Lulay’s acceptance of a mentor roll – while also competing – with Jonathon Jennings has been integral to BC’s 2-0 start. They’re constantly communicating on the sidelines and it’s clearly benefited the entire Lions team.

Chris Williams

Keeping was signed to back up Goosen, not the other way around.

Please stop blaming the fans for the Bombers problems. The fans don't pick the CEO, GM, Scouts, Coaches or the players. The fans don't have any power at all except to stop buying tickets/merchandise. Even then, they don't get any say in what changes are made. There's a term for GM's and Coaches who listen to the fans...... UNEMPLOYED!

All that's because garbage time comes early in Bomberland and we end up playing against pillow soft prevent defenses for a quarter or more each game.

BC wouldn't take Willy and his contract (400K) straight up for Lulay and his contract (200K). In fact Willy's contract plus what he's shown on the field probably makes him untradable.

Man it's depressing to have to be talking about when we euthanize our HC after week 2. There are lots of reasons to do so, but that doesn't make it any less depressing.

This post tells me all I need to know about you.

It's all on the players? Our D line Westerman (17 Sacks), Cummings (8 Sacks), Shologon (7 Sacks), newbie get 1 sack in 2 games? I doubt they forgot how to play so I have to assume it's coaching. Bass was 5th in the league in tackles last year. Wild was good enough to get an NFL look. Randle's a shut down corner. Leggatt would start on almost every team either at safety or LB. We weren't that good on defense last year, being 7th, 8th or 9th in a lot of categories. Personal wise, we're good enough to hold Calgary to under 200 yards rushing and 350 yards passing. Scheme is coaching. Being ready to play before the 4th quarter is coaching. On our O line, Bryant came in as an all star player and hasn't looked like one since he got here. Sorenson and Greaves weren't good enough to play for us, but are good enough to get Grey Cup rings in Edmonton. All three guys played better on other teams. I have to assume that 2 guys didn't magically get better when they left and that one guy got magically worse when he came here, so I blame it on coaching. I also blame it on Walters not bringing in more NI OL either through the draft or FA and for getting rid of NI's who are serviceable in the short term for futures like draft picks. Harris is a top RB/Receiver. Smith is an almost 1000 yard receiver. Dressler and Adams too. Folks were crowing about how good our receiving corps was going to be this year until they saw them actually play. We have 'the most accurate FG kicker in the history of the league" as the Bomber like to say every time they talk about him. The players we have can't play our schemes? That's on the coaches and the scouts, cuz they were brought in to play our schemes and if they can't do it, then change the freaking schemes to something they can play in.

Actually that's also the Jeff Rein-dolt story. He was BC's special teams coach.

Consistency is only good when you're doing the right things. It's terrible when you aren't on the right track, and we are off the rails. We kept O'Shea for consistency last off season and MB the year before for consistency. Both moves will likely have the same outcome. No better than the last year.