Mike

And that makes sense. The catch rule does not, however. IMO.

What is possession, though? Seriously. I'm not trying to be purposely difficult, I just don't look at that play and think initially that it was a catch. So what rules apply when it's that close? Because to me, possession would be that he secured the ball and unless he tucked it (which he didn't) then I don't think he secured it. There has to be a rule beyond "it touched both hands at once with a foot on the ground" that determines this stuff, I just have no idea what it is.

Part 1: you're missing the second part of the equation, where you have to survive contact. If all you need to do is have one foot on the ground and possession of the ball for a millisecond for it to be ruled a catch, then there are a lot more catches in the CFL than what gets called. Part 2: it's a different rule when there's contact, but I can't find the play to comment and I don't remember it.

Because he doesn't tuck it.

Trying to look at it right now and lay it out. Sinopoli secures the ball a few inches ahead of the 50 yard line, left foot on the ground, right foot in the air. Puts right foot down, pivots, left foot comes off the ground just before Singleton drills him. They're still inside the 51 yard line. Not sure how that would constitute a catch.

I'm trying to imagine the footwork involved in what you're describing. Not only does it sound impossible, but I'm looking at the highlight right now and I can't say that I agree that is what happened.

I don't like the "football move" rule either. But in this case, I lean more towards pointing out that he didn't take a single step before getting blown up.

If you look at it, he caught the ball with one foot on the ground. Pivots, plants the other foot, gets blown up and loses the ball. If that's a catch on the sidelines and the same thing happens, but the ball goes out of bounds, that's ruled an incomplete pass every single time. He didn't take a step, he didn't make a football move. Should've been ruled incomplete.

I guess that's where we disagree. I don't think he took any steps.

How many do you think he took to begin with?

Definitely didn't think the Lavoie catch and fumble was even close to a catch.

Walker, Richards and Jeffcoat on the 1-game IR, Gauthier and Bruce Johnson on the 6-game.

Bruce Johnson is missing ... but whatever. I think Carmichael may take his job in the end anyways. Looks like either Flanders or Lankford gets the final DI spot. I'm hoping Flanders but I know it's going to be Lankford.

So, you see them based on history instead of present day reality. Smart.

I was trying not to list too many, we know how Rider fans get confused with numbers that high.

That's old for a DE, she says. Westerman is younger than Charleston Hughes and John Chick, who were 1-2 in the league in sacks last year. Pretty clear by now that you don't understand football. Buzz off.

Go ahead and copy/paste it. You think my opinion will change if we lose Saturday? If we lose Saturday, we'll have lost to a terrible football team and we'll need to improve on it going forward. PS - his record as a starter is 18-15, I know math isn't a strong suit over there but 15 is not "one hell of a lot more" than 18. It's actually less.

I think I've literally just about had it with internet Rider fans. There are quite a number of them (CalgaryRiderFan, Beacon.x, Bingo_Arms, Huff Daddy and several others whose names just elude me right now) that are tolerable, awesome guys to talk football with but man, the majority of people over at Riderfans.com are the biggest bunch of deluded dumb as a post mouth breathers I've ever encountered. It's a shame, because every year I go to Regina for every single away game we have there, the people that I meet are awesome. It's a great city to go watch a game and the fans that are invested in supporting the Riders are great to be around. But that website is a cesspool of stupidity. The stuff I've read on that site is some of the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever imagined. Very few people on there have any clue about football as it relates to anything outside their province and trying to use any kind of reasoning with them is like talking to a doorknob. Wake up and smell the coffee, Rider fans. Your team is the worst team in the CFL, your coach is the laughing stock of the entire league and your GM somehow manages to have no clue what your head coach and defensive coordinator and media recruiting coordinator are doing, despite them all being the same person. You're using the last wear on the tires of old broken down pieces like Kevin Glenn, Jovon Johnson and Peter Dyakowski. Your coach can't stop fetishizing about the kudos he'll get if FINALLY he manages to turn a fullback into a defensive back or a tackle into a receiver and it affects the quality of your roster from top to bottom. You scout and house somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 players, yet can't find a single guy to play defensive back and somehow have to settle for convincing yourselves that Ed Gainey is serviceable. Maybe AC Leonard will stop going offside. Maybe Brenden Labatte won't get hurt for the 47th time. Maybe Henoc Muamba will stop being too fat. Maybe Duron Carter will keep his trap shut for once. Maybe Linden Gaydosh is duct taped together well enough to hold up for 3 or 4 games. Maybe Jordan Reaves will stop dealing cocaine. And maybe if all of that happens, you might have enough of a football team to piece together 7 or 8 wins this year. Until then, know your place, shut up and enjoy the basement. I can't wait until we stomp these guys on Saturday.

The team that has Dan Clark as a starting Canadian is calling out the other team for horrible roster building? The team that has Jeff Hecht as a starting Canadian is calling out the other team for horrible roster building? The team that has Peter Dyakowski as a starting Canadian is calling out the other team for horrible roster building?

Francis at SAM would probably be the worst decision they could make. He's not a DB. They tried him at safety and it was a disaster. I don't know what they do, though. There really isn't a good answer. Horrible roster building.

I guess it's either Judge or Bartlett. I don't see a MLB type on their practice roster either. Muamba being hurt is probably the worst possible injury they could have right now.

Who do they even have in the middle if it's not going to be Muamba?

Jones said they're still planning to start a Canadian LB .. so either Francis the former WR or Judge the special teams guy who signed a week ago.

Henoc ruled out. Good. Can't stand Henoc.