Rich

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/wise-up-winnipeg-lawsuit-1.3926954

There are doctors out there that would argue there is no such thing as a mild concussion. You are either concussed or not.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/jim-bell-blue-bombers-siloam-mission-1.3924332

http://morningbigblue.com/community/guidelines/ Far too much of this going on in these parts by a number of posters of late. Will be a crackdown on those that break this rule.

Out of curiosity, I went through some recent Sun articles tonight (yes I started with Friesen) and couldn't find anything incrimination on Chipman's comments from the press box. Was very curious on what may have been said and printed to cause this whole stir. Headed over to HFBoards, and full credit to one of the moderators there, who dug this up from last August. (link to his post http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=2170351&page=2) (link to Friesen's article about when Wheeler was named captain in August http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/08/31/jets-naming-captain-today) I don't know if this is what caused this whole ruckus, and if it is, if this really warranted the reaction it did. I suspect this would be the icing on the Friesen cake that would put them over the top. Friesen really is the reason I decided to stop reading the Sun. Decided I couldn't support them anymore because of him.

The current model goes through Hockey Canada. They probably have a bidding process on how cities approach them, but Hockey Canada decides who and when they take a bid forward. I'm guessing the reason for this is the IIHF probably only allows one bid per country.

He won't get enough games to be pensionable if he isn't playing. I believe I once read it is the team who he is playing for when he becomes pension eligible that pays for the pension. So they will cut him before he gets there. Edit: Actually, it looks like he might have vested already. You need 3 seasons to vest and he has played games in 3 different seasons.

It is the same issue we've been seeing with the Grey Cup. Event organisers have gotten greedy and prices to these things have sky-rocketed. I saw an article I think on the 2015 World Juniors (also in Montreal and Toronto) where the comment was if these prices were charged for the tournament in Europe, the arenas would be completely empty. So they reduced the prices for 2017, but obviously not for a saturated market who had the event 2 years earlier.

I don't disagree but that is not today's reality. If the fans want true objective reporting, they need to pay for it. But they don't. The clubs interest is protecting its image and brand so they aren't going to subsidize the media to criticize them. And if the media is no longer strong enough to fight back, the club will continue to "bully" them for their own self interest. That's human nature. The new reality is the majority of fans are no longer willing to pay for journalism. That weakens the voice and power of journalists. Blame the fans.

He is. He just happened to put his suite in the middle of the press box ... probably because it is a better view for him, and it allows him to sell one more box if he doesn't use up one of the "normal" ones.

I do think that Wiecek tends to take a negative vibe more than not in his reporting, but to be fair, he wasn't the one who reported whatever it was that got them banished. So all print media media got banished away to the outskirts of the press box for the actions of one of them. At least, that is the assumption Wiecek is making was the reason.

So we passed the Back To The Future year, now apparently we are into the Running Man year / future... http://theconversation.com/the-violent-post-truth-2017-predicted-in-the-running-man-were-living-in-it-70726

That area is for sure in the middle. On the other side of the logo after where it says "Home of The Winnipeg Jets" it goes on to say "Fuelled By Passion"

Man, if that is how it played out (and I do believe you), it makes Wiecek's comments about Tait in that article even worse.

I moved this post into this thread. I *think* the picture in Wiecek's article shows how the box is setup (below). That area on the right of the picture looks different then the rest of the press box. Don't know if that is Chipman's box or if that is for the play by play guys and Chipman's box is underneath. Though, if it is underneath then Chipman is really loud and all the fans in that section would hear as well.

I don't know what Chipman said, but Wiecek wrote an article on the print media getting moved away from the Chipman box, and I have a thread about it in the Bomber forum, as the original article was more about how sports are changing and classic media getting left out in the cold. Wiecek says it was a competing journalist, so I'm guessing someone from the Sun published something.

Which burner did you buy? If you are having the same problem with different software packages, I would start trouble shooting whether the burner itself has compatibility problems with the mac or if the discs you are burning to are bad. Unfortunately burning to either DVDs or Blue Rays is on the decline, I would guess there isn't a lot of current info and updates out there on this.

Interesting article from Wiecek today. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/what-do-you-call-a-press-box-without-press-409363355.html For those that can't get behind the paywall, apparently Chipman's box is within ear shot (in the middle) of the press box and he shouted something negative about the team during a game which one of the papers printed. The next game, all print-media were banished to the edges of the press box. Wiecek says Chipman feels anything overheard in the press box during the game should be off the record and their banishment is retaliation. Who goes on to give other example from the NHL to NFL where media who don't promote the teams message are being punished by those teams in various ways including having their credentials revoked. He talks about the trend of Sports teams hiring media in house to produce their own content and takes a shot at Ed Tait. He has concern that eventually media that don't tow the company line will be blacklisted from the clubs they cover. It is an interesting discussion. One of the reasons I wanted to open this website is I thought it was important to have a strong alternative to the official forum that is "controlled" by the club. Which is the very argument Wiecek makes. On the other hand, the world has changed drastically in the last 20 years. Where sports teams once NEEDED and relied on the media to reach their fans, the internet and social media has opened an avenue where they can reach their fans directly without the middle man. With the recent departure of Kirk Penton from the Sun being the latest example, the writing is on the wall that print media's death is coming faster and faster each day (can you really blame Tait for leaving?). I know I rarely read any news print anymore and when I do I find it stale (it is information I typically already know from social media) and uninspiring Curious what peoples thoughts are on this. Does Wiecek have a valid point here or is it sour grapes on him being sent to the corner? If current trends continue, and the only people reporting on sports teams news (Bombers or Jets), are team employees (official website) and official broadcast partners (conflict of interest), are we as fans going to be missing any hard hitting revelations that the current media provide or used to provide? Is this simply a reflection of the evolution of the world and the media at large? Can the average fans through social media and bloggers replace the hard questions the media were once able to ask?

Sadly our record over the last 10 years is 71-108-1. Respect is earned and other than a few blips in the past decade, we really haven't earned any respect from media or fans outside of Winnipeg. Think of how Hamilton was viewed in the 2000's before Austin showed up. That is really us now. We had a better season last year, but that has to be sustained and improved upon over the longer term. It does feel this way at times, but I don't think we really get screwed more then other teams, when it happens to us it is more impactful to us and stays in our head. I also think winning teams tend to get the benefit of the doubt in a lot of sports. Not always and not on purpose, but in some ways it is human nature to do so, and the refs are human. Again, become a winning organization over a sustained period of time and I think this perception changes. Also, we haven't really had good teams in a long time. A mess up by a ref to a team that is average or below average has a much larger impact then a bad call on a good team because good teams can overcome those things easier, so I think the impact seems worse. Bad teams or average teams need all the help they can get. We are in a tough division, and I think making the playoffs again should be the expectation. It would be nice to finish first, but I think a lot of things need to go our way to get a first place finish. I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

The problem is you find a handful of things and complain about them incessantly, be it Hutch, Thorburn, Stafford or Myers. This is why people don't remember you saying things like injuries are the problem because overall it is a small percentage of what you post I don't recall people saying that Helle has been lights out awesome. The general feeling is he is young and inconsistent. Im not completely sold on Helle yet, but still not ready to give up on him yet. That doesn't mean I need to post every day, or every game to say there needs to be a change. You do bring up some very valid points. The backlash you get is because you are like a dog with a bone and post about the same things incessantly and people get tired of reading the same things over and over and over. Not saying you have to change the way you post, it is completely up to you and you aren't breaking any rules. But don't expect people reactions and responses to change either.

If everyone is misinterpreting your posts, is it their fault and should go back and re-read them or should you reflect on how you communicate your thoughts?

I don't think you realize how your posts come across to people who read them because my impression certainly isn't that you mostly blame the injuries.

His point isn't about losing Burmi to waivers, I don't think people really care at this point. His point is you never know who will clear waivers and who won't. Even those players that people think are terrible. So don't send anyone down, *cough* Hutch *cough*, unless you are prepared to lose them. And most people don't want to lose Hutch until after the expansion draft.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/Jets-Fans-Guide-to-2017/161/81771