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  5. Your starting 2017 lineup vs. Maurice's starting 2017 lineup

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

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    15 hours ago, Ducky said:

    Name 13 forwards and 8 D men with two goalies...yours and who you think Maurice will start

    Scheif Wheeler Connor Laine Little Perreault Little Ehlers Armia Dano Lowry Copp Lemieux (hard not to put Petan in there)

    Trouba Buff Enstrom Morrissey Hamonic/Myers Chiarot Postma Melchiori

    Helle Comrie

     

     

    Maurice's...

    Scheif Wheeler Connor Laine Little Perreault Ehlers Armia Staf Thorbs Lowry Copp Dano

    Trouba Buff Enstrom Myers Chiarot Morrissey Stuart Postma

    Pavs Helle

    You listed Little twice...or is that an adjective for Perrault?

  7. 2016 Lines

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

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    14 minutes ago, Rich said:

    No one was better at the time, that is the point, no competition was brought in.

    At no point have I said Laine or Ehlers should have been in the 'A'.  It is the other prospects that were rushed.

    As for the 'ripen' and 'supposed' to do it, these are Chevy's words, not mine.  But last year he wasn't really following what he has been preaching, which has been the point I've been making in this whole discussion.

    That's the thing though...that's what training camp is for, see who will fill those roles. 

    Roll the dice, see if what you have can atleast do the job. I'd rather see that than sign a few vets just to bide the time. Otherwise it's one step forward two back.

  8. 2016 Lines

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

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    On Thursday, May 05, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Rich said:

    Tlusty - Signed for 1 year @ 800k

    Stempniak - Signed a PTO because no one would sign him, flipped that into a 1 year @850k

    Yep, both of those sure look like they are not cap friendly and horrible for the long term.   

    I have no problems with Trouba or Ehlers starting when they did.

    We should not have started the season with both Copp and Petan in the starting lineup.  They were handed those jobs with virtually no competition.  Make the kids earn it in the AHL and take a spot on an injury call up.

    Chevy didn't let Petan ripen in the AHL, he had him penciled in at the beginning of last season and he obviously wasn't ready so he got sent down and we really had no backup plan.

    Handed to them? Really? Who was available that was that much better at the time?

    You can't be afraid of rolling the dice once in a while.

    Maybe we should let Connor or Laine "ripen" in the AHL too just since that"s how you're " supposed" to do it. Sign some over rated vets to fill in, in the mean time.

  11. 2016 Lines

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

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    On Wednesday, May 04, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Rich said:

    You don't have to trade to fill those spots, you could have signed players like Tlusty and Stempniak to reasonable and short contracts at the end of last season to fill out the bottom part of the roster. 

    They made a conscious choice not to.

    Also Petan started the year with the Jets, mostly because there was not a better option.  He wasn't ready and was sent back down.  A few of those vets would have been nice at that point as there wasn't a whole lot there.  That lack of depth and experience is a big factor into the season we had.

    We also moved Ehlers and Copp into the lineup.  Thats starting the year with 3 rookies with no AHL experience and no real competition they had to beat out for those jobs.

    I'm not saying I disagree with those choices moving into last season.  I'm okay with taking a step back for a year if it means moving forward two or three.  Especially now that we are getting Laine or Mathews, but that was never a guarantee.

    But those choices are in contrast to one of the tenants Chevy has been preaching, which is to let prospects over ripen in the AHL.  Hopefully we now have the depth to really start doing that.

    Tlusty and Stempniak were rental players and nothing else. What good does it do to sign them to contracts that would not have been cap friendly or worth it for the long term.

    Chevy lets players ripen in the AHL if need be. Not the case all the time like with Trouba and Ehlers. Schiefele did that but it was known when we drafted him that'd happen.

  13. 2016 Lines

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

    Posted

    I don't think it's a case of rushing youngsters into the lineup as it is there not being a clear cut better option.

    Chevy isn't about to trade to fill those spots with vets. It's a part of his process. We had vet presence with Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Perrault and Stafford. Seemed as good of a time to ease them into the lineup and weather some growing pains.

    Meanwhile guys like Petan, Lipon and Morrisey were kept back and not rushed in because it was obvious they weren't ready.

    I trust the coaches won't just throw Connor or Laine or any other youngster into the fire if they feel strongly that it will just backfire on them.

  17. Game 83 Jets @ Draft Lottery

    in Winnipeg Jets Discussion

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    5 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Connor - Scheif - Wheeler - 1 rookie

    Laine - Little - Ehlers - 1 rookie.

     

    Why is that so hard to understand? You play your best 6 in the top 6 and those are your best 6. 

     

    We are a team building for the future, If Maurice doesn't play these guys in the top 6, Maurice won't be here in the future. Bottom Line really. 

    Connor over Ehlers aint gonna happen...

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