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I guarantee at least 50 high schools in the US in any given year have a better system and play-calling than what Hogan brought. What is really scary is that we never got to see Ds develop long-term against Hogan. After a year or two as a play caller, things get much tougher. Hogan never got to that point, things could've gotten much worse. About the size of it.

fatukasi has played some C, he’s played all positions though really. right? he can run though atleast

bradley is a wr who converted to te. pretty athletic, good hands and size, soft and not much of a blocker though.

I'd add that it's really just the 1st Q that is strong. After that, the good plays are generally just someone like Brady making outstanding plays. The halftime adjustments do make it worse, and the 3rd Q is our worst handily. What that smacks of is an extremely thin quality of install each week. The first few drives have a good handful of plays that are practiced and repped heavily. Then play calls are organized based on outcome and what you want to try to impose. You're talking 10-12 plays max that are set up to work off what the D gives you on film and what you do well. If a front is undisciplined in the run game and crashes inside leverage early, you might put in wide or outside zone. If they give a lot of cushion and don't tackle well, you might put in quick timing slants. The early drives of a game are almost always the most successful in the CFL. The element of surprise the O has is huge. The problem is deeper than Ds adjusting in-game, or at the half, though. Our problem shows that we have a good initial punch, then no plan to build off that and no counter punch. You always want to layer off your early drive plans. Use screens to set up a screen and go, run plays to set up PA shots; one passing concept to play off another. We never have that. Essentially, we are playing checkers, thinking 1 move at a time, against people playing chess, thinking 10 moves ahead. Even if they think 2-3 moves ahead, they pants us once the opener is done. In chess, this is referred to as a Book Player, or a glass cannon. They have memorized all the opening moves and look as if they know what they are doing. But they lack the fundamental understanding or ability to plan and develop the board. So after looking decent in the opening, they get creamed in the middlegame. Because they memorized but didn't understand any of what they read. TC is a move nerd who has memorized everything other people do to succeed, but failed to grasp more than the tactics. He doesn't understand how to play chess against DCs. That's probably why he doesn't run the Jet sweep stuff we have run through the last 4 OCs. He doesn't get how to use it to build various plays.

You don't need a QB that can make Ds pay for not respecting their arm. Arm is not a huge factor in Ds game planning. Teams do not think or talk about arm anywhere near as much as fans and tv types do. We've seen qbs with way worse arms than brown have a lot more success. Hurting Ds over the top, is about touch and timing. Getting the ball out quick enough that the Secondary can't come over to help it and giving it enough air to let your wr run under it. The biggest arms in the world are not throwing that much deeper than average to below-average-armed QBs. Getting it out quick and clean is everything in tossing deep balls. Offences also design around reading downfield to the line. The deep route is almost always the first pre and post-snap read. Brown has the arm to hurt any D in the league. We've seen it many times. Zach hasn't been remotely as good as brown at throwing the deep ball since 22 began. What we need is a system with play design to counter quick pressure and put offensive targets in a position to make plays that fit their toolset. IE not asking White to be a down field 50/50 guy. Or asking the couple of big wrs we have to be YAC guys. Lapo would be the best OC we've had since Bucks 2nd last year. Which is the saddest damn thing I've said in a long time. Idk if anyone else would look at lapo any more. So If he wants a way back in, I think this is his only chance. That said, just because he has a pulse and is better than the dead fish OCs we've saddled ourselves with doesn't mean he is the answer. Tbh, Idk how we get new blood at OC that is worth having. IF we had hired Maksymic, I think we'd be 2nd in the west right now. Even with Zachs injuries.

Picking between condell and hogan is like deciding what manufacturer you want to make the semi that runs you over. You may really love Mack, but nothing changes in the end.

For instance, the play call is a 3x2 single back pistol formation and a PA with a vertical flood passing concept to the 3 wide side and a post corner to the other side. QB sees the 2 WRs on the boundary side have off coverage and too much cushion. So he goes to check 1, a behind-the-line screen package to the trips side (field). Or if he sees a gap is uncovered, he goes to check 2 for the inside zone run. Check 3 would be a concept to the trips field side; say the QB reads overload, this check would remove the PA and give him a timing route on a 1-step drop. You only have a few checks installed; some will vary per formation, but they won’t be too diverse. Something simple and fast that the QB is comfortable with in a tough spot. You don’t have a QB go to the line with that play, then call a whole other play to swap to. The modern style of playbook construction is very modular. A D generally calls coverage, front alignment, and pressure package. An offence calls a passing concept to each side, formation/ protection, and, on some plays, motion. Then you adjust a piece as needed. That’s part of why we’ve run 1 run game scheme for ages. We used to be the best at running any play from any formation with a diverse number of formations. Now we basically run 3x2, empty backfield, or occasionally a heavy set.

They aren’t wholesale changing the play; they are checking down. You do not have time in the CFL to change the play call at the line, especially with how slow our offence is getting set up out of the huddle.(That’s across all the QBs to play; it’s not one QB being slow) It is a systematic failure of the install. We don’t have viable counters to basic defensive concepts, the same ones multiple teams have used to run us over this year. The only way to enable a QB to fully change the call on the fly is to play hurry-up and call the offence from the line in the first place. And we don’t run hurry-up. We should, though: Zach is by far the best person in our franchise right now to call plays, and brown is No. 2. Though, with a bad install each week, you handicap even what they can call. If we don’t deal with TC quickly, we won’t be a playoff team. We can compensate for the OL with the tools we have. We can’t cover for TC with any set of players.

we shouldn’t have cut rando, should’ve cut bryant, and should’ve benched elsbury long ago. The ol has been trash and we refuse to even try to fix it.

they aren’t changing the play, they are checking it which is with in the system. it’s not like 25 years ago when qbs called the plays and changing things at the line was contested. Offences today are designed for checks based on pre snap reads. This happens off pre determined reads. The majority of the time this is based on db depth or the sams alignment between the far slot and tackle box. With TCs offence, this is often going to be moving away from the slot screen because the D is too tight to make it work. Dru came out getting the ball out of his hand quickly, and was hitting great windows. The running game was cruising too. Tor adjusted, and we had no counter to the pressure. which we’ve seen many times this year. We didn’t work off the run worth a damn and got all away from the run again for long stretches. The Os struggles are 100% on condell. Brown can beat the rush with his release if you give him the plays to do it. he can roll and throw on the run. he isn’t a scrambler, but he’s very good on slide pro, moved pockets, rolls and boots. None of which we used. We also only threw or brady once, which was on a broken play. That’s the best pressure release we have. We didn’t run 1 jet/sweep or even the motion. This prevents the D from getting out of their lanes. OCs have a ton of ways to deal with pressure, and manufacture drives. We tried none of them. After tc, it falls on the ol, and the roster useage. Dante provides nothing and is a hindrance as a big. he can only block on smaller guys and teams know what’s coming when he’s on the field. At least if we put a 7th ol on we could deal with pressure and go heavy.

I could see buck getting fired and coming back to be oc and ast hc lol. I could also see us giving the job back to hogan lol.

and we find a way to ****** a loss from the jaws of victory. Can we fire condell yet?

probably 60-65

look at that, pressure release check down. what a concept

left them in the 2022 off season

block to the back on mci call it back clear as day shove in the back

first read was far too slow to beat the rush

demski whiff, no check down option and brown just ducks

vaval takes it cleanly , he caught it but sure as hell wasn’t clean quietly making a hell of a case to be runner up for moc

some bad, many horrible discipline.

ben major is his own favorite cfler

whistle was too fast he fumbled

i do love to see kelly get smooshed

yep cut off his path to the ball to be in the way. way too much to expect cfl refs to get that right though

polk set a moving screen to prevent the pick and the ref took the bait