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Nichols started frequently in edm. They pushed him back down the depth chart because of low yard production and frequen 2 and outs despite enough to win most starts. Jyles was never starter material in this league. Collaros didn't find his game under plop. He stayed healthy and had an ol to keep him up right. The difference between his play under plop and buck is night and day. It's not that they can't produce enough to win in it. And it's not just his system. He isn't a qb coach. He doesn't develop their skills at all. Yes his system hides diffencies like not be able to throw down field but that's how you prevent improvement. Hiding weak spots limits growth.

That is true too. Though I don't feel like that's normal. Most offenses are better and red zone td passes. But for years our red zone is get deep enough to push it in behind that great ol.

Does any one think he actually makes it as a db? I say he plays 4 or less games with a 50 percent chance he doesn't start 1 game at db.

I gotta feel like he wants to come back to Winnipeg but who knows things change with years money and opportunity speaks volumes. We've lost plenty of guys since 19. I would love to see strevy back. If the nfl doesn't work out I feel like it'd be as good a fit as any team.

Yeah seems like it'd be a great fit but idk if the money is there for him.

His running style reminds me of jessie lumsden, especially when he'd play us. Idk who that team is right now though. Would be a smart move for BC, especially since their ol still sucks but they have dangerous wrs. But they seem all in on going ni at qb. Edm has like 6 guys on the roster, 2 are locks and a 3rd blue chip prospect. Stamps are locked in on maier and blm, Ott is all in with masoli, mtl isnt biting with harris and vaj, ham isnt either. Tor has 4 guys locked in including crazy kelly and crazier MBT. They also brought in pipkin as kind of a vet. But they have the right coach imo. They have various offensive weapons and a willingness to hand out money that doesnt make sense. Still, Streveler would have to be going in as a back up and not expect a big base salary or bonus. Ssk, I hate this thought but at first glance the logistics look good. They have 2 guys, and 1 former nfl draft pick qb but no legit back up. Strevy could run the same packages as fajardo, if he went down they wouldnt have to adjust any thing. The issue I see here, other than strevy going to the durpside and again accepting a role as a back up with limited money available, is CF him self. I dont think he'd be happy at all if the riders signed Strevy fresh off the NFL to back him up. Thats too much like competition. That just leaves us. I dont see any one at this point giving strevy the lead of a team and an offense suited to him this year.

Signing bonuses are, but not all bonuses are. Lots of guys have incentives from roster based to production based which arent guaranteed. Lots of bonuses are based on being on the roster on X day.

His last year in college he had a streak of some thing like 10 games with out a turn over too. Streveler isnt michael vick. There are a LOT of better running qbs with limited arms. He didnt get to the NFL because he was a sick athlete and couldn't throw. Blake Jackson, converted to a WR is a better running threat QB. Streveler is a 1 cut runner. Strong af, and more 20/40 yard fast than pure quick acceleration guy. Running QBs who are fast twitch quick, able to cut and re cut are the most dangerous. On a side note I'd like to see Jackson get some reps here in camp as a KR. He's like a bigger, quicker jenarion grant. Didnt get better under plop. Edm got rid of him because he did the same thing with them as he did here. Production went up because the OL went from terrible to great. If any thing, Nichols got worse. But thats due to injuries, not plop. Go look at his runs of 20-40 yards from 12-17. Also look at his game high lights from edm. He was the same quality passer in 14-15 as he was here. Also go back and look at all the high upside low experience Developmental QBs we had under plop. Streveler, Bennett, Davis to the rest. Most of them had very, very little experience. Davis and bennett had the amount of college and hs reps combined that streveler had. Guys like that should show improvement quickly with dedicated pro coaching. Plop had davis for what 5 years combined? And even in a second stint with him as his starter he was the same guy he was when he arrived here.

You are correct, I should've been more clear. Passing tds per game. Though all stats can be skewed. No one stat in any sport will give you a clear picture.

Qbs developed under and improved by oc aren't the same thing. Lots of qbs have developed to various extents under under coaches in the last 10 years. No qb has improved under plop.

Passing yards is also dumb but not as bad. A terrible qb can be carried entirely to wins. Passing yards is atleast some indicator or their own positional performance. Similarly a wr can put up 1k or 1500 yards but have a piss poor ypc and drops etc. For qbs I like tds per game and yards per completion.

Doing that would be a huge admition of failure. For a franchise with their fan base on the brink of collapse they can't afford to just cut Lawler if he doesnt produce. Imo if it goes bad they will try to ir him or push him out into a suspension and leave the blame on him.

Tim Tebow. Qb record is the dumbest stat in all of sports. In baseball total wins doesn't get you a Cy young. It's the last factor in judging a pitcher. You have to judge qbs and players on their own merit.

Streveler is a high potential guy. We barely scratched his potential and didn't develop him much. He is treated like any young qb who gets the next starter status. Like Franklin and soo many guys both good and bad. Except instead of getting starter money and going to a bad team to Try and turn them around he went to the nfl. In the nfl streveler showed flashes of being able to move the ball and run an offense. He isn't the guy you want starting on a contender. He is a guy id take on teams trying to step into the playoffs though. Edm bc for instance. I'd take him over mbt in tor too. He's a great no2 for any team. He's like Steve Young before he went to the 9ers. Athletic a gamer tough amazing raw talent. Needs to be given a Real chance.

Not with him in the locker room. He'd be fifo'd out the door soo fast his head would spin. With that limited qb ability, yes. Last years bomber team could win the cup with streveler.

Thats true, but it starts with money. Those teams could've paid heavily for Williams service and built around him. Like we did with bryant. But its like they didnt even try to build the OLs. Just sign more wrs!

Dru brown was one of the worst qbs I've ever seen in blue and gold. Other guys can be in that tier, but I dont think any one was worse.

At this point Faj is more locked into his limitations, Prukop could grow into more. Though I'd say his upside is limited, but I think his ability to fulfill his potential here is much higher because of the OL and team around him that booch referred to. He's much better than hall/brink based on a similar ability to throw but a whole lot more athleticism. I am hoping for a big rookie to come in and be the future guy. Or a return of strevy.

Wonder if we consider drafting Tre Ford at qb. He seems like the most draftable NI qb in a heck of a long time.

Right? Teams have all been taking to the plop style offense, running more, the bend but dont break D, you name it. But nope no one wants to go out and over pay to build a great OL. Its crazy.

Dru brown has reported this post because he's in it and he doesnt like it.

Jones gonna make his stars all play both ways. I'll never understand how BC and EDM could go to 300k on lawler (who I think very highly of) but not ucambre williams. Bad teams making bad decisions giving out bad contracts.

Thats a stretch by lalji. Vaj was academically in eligible at the time of transfer and wasn't able to play till after dakota. Had he been eligible earlier, prukop would've been on the bench, vaj was handily ahead of him. Both are small school athletic big sky transfers to oregon. But vaj shined in oregon and prukop was a bust.

No, but a system could be run with streveler that would be good enough to win imo. It just would require an OC to cater to his skill set. Also, Edm has 3 better qbs on their roster right now. We gotta be able to find some one who is atleast able to develop into a blue chip prospect.

He's a poor mans fajardo. Extremely athletic and physically tough. Much more of a natural scrambler, doenst rely on the one move he can make more happen with his legs. Has a strong enough arm to throw down field, but not a special arm by any means. Doesnt have particularly good zip, touch, or release. He's an awful lot better than dru brown, and in the same skill set / limitation. I hope we get a better no2 (which I doubt) or a much better developmental prospect for camp. But if not, I'd say he's better than mcguire showed last year. But Mcguire had a lot more arm talent. Fun fact, he was team mates with charles nelson in oregon.