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wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I’d much rather have Jackson as a da. Give him late game blow out reps, 6th ol tackle spot stuff. guy needs reps bad. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Harder to stay healthy if you take several weeks or a month off then play a play off game than if you just keep playing. Don’t take unnecessary risks, give guys more reps late in a game than you might normally that’s about it. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I hate taking your foot off the pedal. I get wanting to keep guys safe but you don’t want to let up or get away from what works too much. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You can go back and switch a guy from the 1 game to the 6. And you have been able to for atleast a year or two. The 6 game rules used to be very strict but that is no longer the case. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
As for Kelly being a rookie or not, he’s like a red shirt junior. He’s had all the seasoning time in both the nfl and cfl you could want. He hasn’t been a starter long and hasn’t yet had to face defensives that are well adapted to him. Rourke was the same deal last year. Silly for either to win rookie of the year, but they aren’t seniors or vets by any stretch. we never got to see rourke play a sophomore jinx year. We will see that from Kelly next year. It will be very interesting to see how he does. We’ve seen lots of QBs take a step back in the sophomore year, and even get crushed by it (cf comes to mind). -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You are correct. They way this is overcome is practicing the wrinkles from early in camp/the season. The wrinkles aren’t stuff you come up with week to week, it’s progressions long planned for. When they counter the wide zone Toronto loves to run you bust them with an out side zone. Etc. Dinwiddie, who is indeed razor sharp and really made some good coaches (including ours) look bad, isn’t dreaming stuff up on the fly and throwing it in. You can be sure the wrinkles they add have been practiced plenty in closed facilities practices for weeks at the least. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The money for replacements comes out of that, not the rest which creates a net surplus. As well as what we allot for guys who might come back from the nfl, under spending on injury replacements, un spent bonus cap, 6 game repay, etc all rolls into cap surplus when you get close to the deadline you take that whole sum and turn it into excess used to front load money to reduce future cap hits. If teams did not put aside a good 400k to pay replacements out of, any team with a starting qb that goes down for the season would go over the cap before the 6 game period and lose a first round pick. So you can guarantee that the sum allotted for replacement injury players is your starting qb and probably close or your second highest paid player. Other wise you would lose a first if you lost your top two players to injury long before week 5. Like Ottawa last year. Or bc the last few years where they lost big fa addition defensive guys. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If you go back and watch any of the yearly off season summary videos from walters you’ll see this reiterated in every one. we went over the cap with the mid season moves, that’s why our over all amount over was low. Again that’s budgeted for. No team is spending to the cap at the start of the year. the one game is relatively meaningless as I said in another post. With the ability to retroactively swap 1 game to 6 game and remove guys early from 6 game. But yes if a guy misses less than 6 we don’t get savings. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Correct. Nfl teams are pretty aggressive in min maxing though, idk if they waste a free roster spot. Though with the expansion of the pr pretty significantly and the pay for guys on the pr, a lot more pressure is on the front office of each team to maintain a deep scouting report on available talent. The globals may well be an after thought. Teams that are more involved in the international player program will take advantage the rest not soo much. It might force the cfl to pay globals more too. I mean we have some good global p/ks in the league a position the nfl needs but refuses to draft for the most part. That’s easy low hanging fruit for nfl teams and a massive massive pay increase for those guys here. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We can retroactively change guys from 1 game to 6 game and take them off 6 game so in reality the 1 or 6 game doesn’t differ much any more. As I see us using it guys who are day to day and miss a game go to 1 game ir. Vets who get scratched and aren’t playing a following week go to 6. Pretty much every one else also goes to 6. Also we some times seem to leave guys on 1 game for a few weeks maybe to keep guys preparing for the possibility they play. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You’re miss understanding the nature of the 6 game. When a player is on it, that salary still counts. So including the replacement, we are still under the cap. Then after 6 weeks we get that cap hit back. Each team allots a portion of the cap to off set injuries. It’s not player comes off our roster salary comes off our books new players salary goes on the books. We stay under the cap including injury replacement players, and the injured player. It’s not like the nba where teams are crushed up against the cap. We also leave extra room every year for nfl cuts. The salary cap right now is 5.45m. Realistically, we likely spend 5.15m range and keep the rest on hand. Walters always has done this. You also have to pay for the pr expansion guys. what you are also missing gcn20 is that we aren’t replacing most guys with vet imps. We’ve dressed an extra global a few times, and frequently filled vet imp spots with rookie contract and second deal nis. We’ve started an extra ni or rostered an extra global in almost all our games. And we’ve also not been abusing the nat imp rule filling out another spot with a min guy. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
100%. And bringing in the best talent with what’s available. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep agree. This off season will be the success indicator for the team going forward the next few years. We will have to move to younger guys and make the next Willy, biggie type of addition to remain competitive and focus on restocking our nis cupboard. And not with just sts guys. -
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wbbfan replied to bustamente's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Tbh I get the entry draft. It doesn’t help any one to cripple teams upon entering the league. Personally I would do less picks maybe 3 rounds with more protections for teams with each round. Then maybe clear all but 4-5 neg list names and let the expansion team fill theirs then each team picks from the remainder and fills theirs out. And let them pick an extra time at the end of the first 3 rounds in the draft. so first round you could take a back up qb or one imp mid level starter. Then 3rds and back up ni or di then final roster ni imps and futures rights guys in the nfl. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Miller and Hansen aren’t earning 60k. Lawler is on a 2 year deal, his bonus is split. We always have 6 games of ir savings from jj. Again that also doesn’t include any of the other guys. Miller is 95k, no4 in FBs pay. rose is 125k grant is 111k hansen 80k even if Darby is at 80, and I have no doubt he’s over 90k, that’s an average of 98,200 per guy. At 90k it’s a good 100k per. Now add in kyrie gauthier clements Lawrence and beeksma. That’ll very conservatively be another 100k. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
old but gold bob wylie on a football podcast talking about what makes a great ol. That blows. I’ve never eaten at a pub that wouldn’t change 1 tv to a game or fight for me. But the maritimes are not fertile ground for the cfl. Better chance of making it work in Toronto. Sell them off to the yanks! Or maybe trade for some strategic spots of land. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Honestly it makes total sense if you are a play off team to go over the cap to the max dollar for dollar penalty if the move will make you any degree better. Not worth giving up the pick though. This year I don’t see any team having a fire sale, or any vet or group of vets coming from the nfl that would warrant that kind of money. Strevy is probably going back to the Jets, Alford is locked in with Atlanta and we don’t have many other coals in the fire. Maybe we put big money for the remainder of the season to a guy like Brandin Bryant, but I doubt he comes. And I doubt they give him that much. I think he’s likely to come back up in the off season or retire. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I’m just adding up 1 round on the ir. If a few guys hit round two and some are very close it’ll shoot way up. 10% of our salary cap is pretty conservative for a dead line number with the amount of vets who’ve missed big chunks of time. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Darby rose Hansen grant and miller average 90 ish k. (Rose him self is 125k) Jj at 185 lawler at 250. That’s 150, 62k, 83k. Being very conservative that’s 295k keep in mind the min vet imp salary is 70k. So having those guys on the 6 game adds up fast. hansens deal was held up because they couldn’t pay him more so rules had to be adjusted. 80k is what I see floating around for him. Grant got 111k hard money with 115 if he dresses for 12 games. Which I think is gone now. Realistically the average between the first 5 is easily closer to 100k. At 100k avg and those other numbers just 6 games from each is 311,666 bucks and change. That is factoring in 0 dollars for gauthier, Lawrence, kyrie, or clements. So yeah, 325k very easily. -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah. I really don’t see us adding a lot of salary at the deadline. But the cash from jj lawler grant rose Darby Hansen and even miller is pretty significant. Some rough napkin math based on leaked contracts and estimates id put it at about 325k. And that’s a bit conservative and doesn’t take into count some of those guys clearing a second 6 game stint -
Blue Bombers - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think it could be any where from 150 to 175. Idk guy lives his best life at his previous rate and he’s locked in with the community. Might even be incentive laden deal. Though if we go from Augustine to a drafted rookie that will make up the large majority of that room. If they lock him up this year they could front load bonus money with room under the cap from all the 6 games and lawler. He’s the lowest flight risk on the team. -
🤮 walker would play a bunch at edge.
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Roster management bad! I think jj usually misses practices around this time of year, and in general. Not sure it actually means any thing. last week Brady had the angle and was near the side line past first down yardage. Instead of going out or going as far as he could and trying to hand fight for a yard or two, he just turns back up field and runs out of his way to blast some rider db. Probably didn’t make a years difference if it did he probably got a bit less. But that violent relentless play late in a blow out win was beautiful. If Brady gets 20 Carries in a post season game, no one is beating us. Is jj ever 100%? Love the guy but he’s always hurt
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CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I checked and they do not. Globals in the nfl are players from outside of Canada and the us. might drive that price up too. Personally, great Canadian ol are harder to find that good imp tackles. -
CFL - 2023 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to JCon's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I’m sure they are meeting the market value from desjarlais deal. Boy we are gonna see a serious dip in global talent once that is in place.