Old Bomber Fan

I will congratulate the Bombers on reaching the Grey Cup. I will say they played an excellent game against the Stampeders however not so good against Sask. Sayles need only to knock down the pass and the game was over....thank goodness for the goal posts and the defence for a couple of goal line stands. And thanks to Gauthier for his determination game game saving tackle. Hamilton is a different animal period. While we have a QB who can throw a deep ball somewhat consistently we still have an OC who cannot see the forest for the trees. The calls with Collaras going deep are to be complimented, the play calls when Streveler was in are really questionable. Since when does it mean that when Streveler comes in the only person running the ball is Streveler. Does Lapo believe he is surprising anyone by Streveler running every single play! Oh he did pass once sorry. Why do they not do what they did against Calgary...run some plays with Harris running or demski and fake Streveler once in awhile. Lapolice had better come up with a better game plan against Hamilton if we are going to win. Hall’s defence has been pretty good since he replaced the safety. All that is required now is to stay focused, play good man to man and understand the game situation! will we win? I sure hope so but we are in deep in my mind BUT with some good coaching, some great focus by all we have a chance! Go Bombers Go

Oh and yes I apologize I was wrong last week when I had doubts.

I will say that this was the first time I have seen the bombers adjust at half time. So for that I will give them all kudos for it. With that said it might be a little to late? Not sure. I will only congratulate them for it and hope they can do the same next week, especially when things are not going great. Well done team!

Typical lapo offense and hall defenders it may be a long day

Simply wish the team the best of luck....they will need it I’m afraid. We squandered a successful start of a season by losing those two out east and haven’t been close to a playoff team since. Further the coaching decisions that have gone on in the past 5 games is head scratching. BUT asbinsaidbi wish them well and will be watching from sunny Arizona

More like 58-59.

I guess if I was McGuire I would certainly consider not signing next season. Has been given a chance nor will he. Something I can’t understand....he beats out last years back up to Streveler as back up yet not enough confidence from coaches to play him when his turn comes up. Instead we look for anyone but him. Great way to develop QBs but then again not our strong point is it.

How about this....seeing the only thing that this coming came can give us is a home game and considering we have a last week bye why not start McGuire with Collaras as a back up. Give Streveler a two week break to heal and practice his intermediate and long throws. Meanwhile our 3rd string QB gets meaningful reps and evaluation under real fire....Collaras is available and has an opportunity to learn more of the playbook and who knows we might even win. In any event it is a win win all around. AND we will see if the ply book changes at all....other than Harris getting the ball around 25 times. Speaking of Harris what about Augustine....he did very well in my mind when Harris was suspended. That would give Harris a rest and confirm the type of player we have in Augustine. Again a win win but let’s see

And our DC does nothing about it. Do you think other teams aka sask will learn from this? As far as the offence is concerned that is totally on O’Shea

I think one has to look at our passing game versus any other in the league. It is interesting for example that yesterday BLM hardly ever threw to a standing still receiver whereas that is all our QB does with the exception of 2 or 3 throws. In most team sports where advancing the “object” in this case a football players are normally taught to put it in a position for the player to receive it in stride or whatever. Look at soccer, hockey, ruby, basketball, even ringette, the players almost always ware dive the object in stride. Okay not always in basketball but in advancing the all down court yes. why then are our receivers constantly standing still when the hall is thrown to them. Oh we tried the deep ball a couple of times and were successful of a couple but the majority are short curls and the player is going nowhere most of the time when he gets it. I don’t see it as often with other teams especially CALGARY. That is why they lead the lead in passes over 20 yards or more. That is why we are at the bottom of the league in passing yards. Does it have anything to do with the caliber of our receivers or the ability of the QB or perhaps the offensive scheme? All I know is Lapo has run this type of offence since coming into the league. When he arrived in Winnipeg as our OC the first time he took over an offence that was second to non in the league I believe in most categories. It was an offence that was developed by Rick workman the year before. The bombers fired workman because he couldn’t get along with Charlie Roberts. To the point though, Lapo was fired I believe two years later because the offence declined significantly. He did go onto win a grey cup with sask but it was their defence that won it for them not the offence. He came back here as head coach and was fired in his second season I believe because the team was terrible. Can’t blame it all on the coach but he had the day in who is selected to the team. Then for some reason when mos became coach the higher ups thought he would be a great Coordinatore because he was a TSN analyst. Perhaps the other thought was they needed some veteran coaches as coordinators to help mos or to possibly replace him. Well we all know the story now.....retreads are retreads. They do not become successful if leaning on their past victories and will only be successful again if they look to the future for different thinking in how theyy themselves can grow. Sorry for the long rant but it is obvious to me that this trio will never develop a winning team if they stay together. It has been what 5-6 years now and while we have seen some improvement there isn’t enough to suggest they can win it all. Stats say what you want them to say, winning is a stat that doesn’t lean on stats.

All the QB comments aside, and I’m a Streveler fan like most, this comes down to coaching plain and simple. Streveler has been with the team for 2 years and has been given little opportunity to develop his throwing abilities. Buck pierce was a Streveler run first pass second so how would one think he could develop his passing game. And if memory is correct pierce wasn’t that great a passer either. Then you have the game plan being practiced week in week out....short pass game very few long balls little time to develop chemistry with receivers outside 10 yards and no development on timing ie throwing to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be. So from a coaching perspective little developmental input hence little development. Another point that has been mentioned here, why did the coaches risk Streveler’s career and health seeing what we all saw....a guy who could barely walk let alone run ! Any sensible coach would have taken him out whether he wanted to or not the first time he could hardly get up! Why do you have backups dressed....to look pretty? I blame O’Shea first and Lapo second...regardless of what Streveler said he should have been taken out and replaced by either of the others. and finally why did Harris only get 12 touches running the ball.it certainly says something about the game plan when the QB has more rushing attempts and more yards than the leading rusher in the league! oh well maybe next year!

This is the worst example of coaching I have ever seen...good ahead and ruin my career coach what a bunch of bs

Agreed big hill is in his last year unless it is hall defensive scheme

They have not thrown to wol yet this game? Is he beyond the 7 yard limit or what? 3rd place or maybe even crossover with the leadership of this team......but we have won 10 games....so what?

Why was big hill not on the line of scrimmage on that to? Isn’t that where a mb is supposed to be knowing they are going to run at least on first down? Good call hall or is it time for big hill to retire

It finally worked

Back to normal short throws less than 10 yds and a hall defender that won’t blitz. When we he ever figure out you cannot let Mitchell stand there and check his receivers? And what happened to the successful running game? Come on O’Shea wake them up!

The fact one coach can turn a team that started 0-2 into a second place team: another coaches a bottom dwelling team into a first place team in the west and yet another who coached a team to first place in toe east should say something about the coaches role in turning around teams. And for the most part with similar rosters. So what does that say about our tenured coaching staff? Just a question and comparison

Going back to the initial text in the string, could it be that our receivers most of the time are standing still when receiving the ball whereas many other teams the receiver is actually running to the ball. Prime example was on our TD pass last game, receiver runs to the ball DB over him but able to put body between DB and ball and make the catch. Most other times our receiver is standing still waiting for both the ball and the DB often at the same time. Just my thought

And I congratulate him on his start and hope he continues to play at this level both offensively and defensively regardless of what line he is one. As I said if he continues to do this I am wrong and have no problem admitting it. Let’s see what happens for the rest of the season and talk about it in April May or June . In the meantime good luck to the jets!

I do agree they need some security however let me ask the question should Streveler go down who comes in to replace him.....McGuire or Collaras. If it is the later then I would suggest they have no faith in their development program or that he isn’t experience enough and that goes back to their development program as well. Not sure but were there other teams looking for another QB when their #1 went down and they had to play #2? Forgive me but I can’t recall any

I guess this confirms one of two things, either the Bombers don't believe McGuire is a capable back up or the Bombers don't feel they can develop a QB period. They have had 2 years with Streveler and a year with McGuire so guess they don't make the grade. It either say the above or their scouting of QBs is poor. Oh well we will see what happens. Doubt he will be around come next year.

point well taken guess I'm too long in tooth to realize this day and age because of the game itself that this might not be a possibility but really don't understand how you get real time reps for these guys to develop if you don't do that type of thing. Oh well then perhaps much more time has to be spent during practice. God help us if Streveler gets hurt and in comes another green horn with no experience.

To change the discussion slightly regarding Streveler I do agree and have always stated Lapo is not what the Bombers need to be successful. It looks like many are now agreeing. However the point I would like to bring up is the development of our QBs. Last game was perhaps the second example in as many games were out development of QBs stood out to me. In he Hamilton game the games was over after 3 quarters pint set and match. Why then did they not put on McGuire to give him some meaningful reps. Similarly this past game we were done by our last two possession. Why then didn’t they put in McGuire to give him more game reps. Two examples of when they could give a back up exposure and two examples of when they failed. The same can be said in the banjo bowl...we were dominating and a prime time in the 4th to give mcguire a shot but didn’t. And I’m guessing if you look back over some of our other games there would have been opportunities that were lost. Yet they expect Streveler to step in and be as successful as a starter. Similarly should Streveler go down in comes McGuire with no reps period in real time! This my friends is no way to develop QBs or any other position for that matter. When given the opportunity to have a player experience live fire should you not do it? Again within reason. Thisvisvwhat I have witnessed since Lapo has been involved with the Bombers, when first an OC, next as a HC and again this time around. Do I blame Lapo for this....absolutely. Do I blame MOS absolutely again. This is why we never develop QBs, this is why we are in trouble when our starter goes down, and this is why we will not get close to the grey cup this year. Sad a frustrating!

Let me just ask one question.....when was the last time you can remember the Blue Bombers mentoring a QB into a starter? Frankly I have been following them for 65 years and the only one I can think of in that time was Kenny Ploen. We have traded for some good ones (Clements), signed a couple from the States (Brock, Jabobs, Hanzen) who were already established QB in their own right. But who have we brought along aka the Calgary Stampeders, Ottawa back in the day, Edmonton, BC (with Buono there), modern day Hamilton. Someone said and correctly QBs have to be on the "right" team to succeed. Is that the offensive scheme, the OL line, the way they are coached? I would say all of the above. Here in Winnipeg, we do not coach our QBs well and I would offer that Buck is not the person we need as a QB coach or OC. If he was we would not be witnessing what we are today. We do not groom our QBs to be successful should they be called upon simply because they don't get the reps other backups on other teams get during practice. Our mentality is next man up which is great but you can't be next man up in the QB position if you don't get the reps and the game plan isn't designed around your strengths. This is nothing new for LaPo; he has been like this his whole career. When we hired him away from TSN everyone was saying how great an analysis and offensive mind he was and he even went south to pick the brains of some NFL OCs. Does that not ring funny? The NFL game is nowhere close to ours; 4 downs verse 3 is a drastic change. And do leopards change their spots? We need a new OC, have needed one since LaPo signed. We need someone who can teach QBs the subtle nuances of the position and show them how to use their strengths while working on their weaknesses...then translate that to the OC. I was looking around at all the new faces in the coaching ranks this weekend and there are many as has been mentioned. Some I have never heard of but there they are coaching. Because we don't know their names does not mean they will not be good coaches. The DC for Sask totally out coached LaPo and how long has LaPo been around. Same with Montreal, and Hamilton. We need to look outside the box I'm afraid. We lost Kahari, Sask Dickensen and Ottawa Dickensen during this journey. It will be interesting to see what happens next. It is truly hard to believe that teams in this league except Winnipeg cannot rebuild a team within a few years never mind 29! Lots have what's our excuse?