Old Bomber Fan

Problem is the players play in the schemes the coordinators dictate. If the scheme isn’t working.......hello offence........then the coordinator MUST make adjustments. If he doesn’t the HC should step in and provide direction. Because O’Shea isnt an offensive mind he is afraid to speak to the king of offensives hence we destroy an up and coming young QB by try to make him a pocket passer, ignore his strength and at the same time destroy his confidence. He looked defeated today not the same young guy who was full of p... and vinegar in the beginning of this train wreck.....and he was successful then but now seems to expect what we expect nothing good. so it lies at O’Shea’s feet as well as Lapo. I said when we hired Lapo it was a bad move...got racked over the goals for saying it yet here we are. And as for O’Shea the second longest reining coach in bomber history.....what has he done for us lately.we will play the crossover against Montreal and get beaten in Montreal end of season. Sad

Why not simply tackle him instead of trying to knock the ball away....maybe he will drop it

Crossover here we come it might last one game

Play calling?

Why is it that their receivers catch the ball in stride and ours are standing still waiting for the ball

Is there any reason why demolish is the only one he throws long to? That is 3 isn’t it ?

Streveler looks defeated and not sure what to do. That’s a guy who had a ton of enthusiasm willing to run at will with desire and had super credentials coming in. Thanks Lapo

Just thought of this shrivel is a relatively new DC Lapp has been around for years...why then can we not exploit the sask D. Let me guess Lapp isn’t as smart as we all think he is. Further with the exception of the D they don’t seem interested

Lapo is trying to turn Streveler into a pocket passer which he isn’t a great example of putting a square peg in a round hole

Lapo is trying to turn Streveler into a pocket passer which he isn’t a great example of putting a square peg in a round hole this is really bad

Not sure I was too harsh on Laine simply stating some facts albeit I had one wrong. I guess all I’m saying is I received conformation of his attitude even while growing up in Finland from people who knew him there and followed him in hockey until he left. I do believe I said they would bridge him but sign Connor for more years and that has proven to be correct. I don’t think the jets are sold on his ability to be a team, two way player hence the bridge. Will be interesting to see what transpires in the next two years...if he develops into a team player they will offer more, if he continues this way guessing you will see a trade in next years off season. Do it is up to him. His true character will show through one way or the other. if he is just an immature young man as a hockey player and grows into a team player I’m wrong, if he doesn’t and remains his petulant self blaming everyone else for his shortcoming, he will be traded and unfortunately I’ll be right. Let’s hope for the former!

It is interesting that there are several "new" OC and DCs in the league many who have played the game and many we have overlooked because: 1. we have "proven" coordinators who have been in the league for many years and 2. we did not pursue new names for some reason other than 1. Seems to me many here wanted Kahari to be our OC a couple of years back but that didn't happen. We had both Dickensons I think at one point and both were let go, now both head coaches. We need a new outlook and game plan on both sides of the ball. MOS is comfortable in his skin because he has two old coordinators whom he thinks know their way around the CFL. Sad but the game has moved on and left them behind. It is refreshing to see people want a change up in coordinators, I been saying that, to much displeasure of many here, for many years. MOS I believe the second most tenured coach in our history, is barely above, if he still is, in win/losses and yet he refuses to change coordinators. Is it because he fears for his job if a young upstart comes in and shows him up? I don't know that answer. I only know that we will not go anywhere with what we have. As I mentioned in another thread, we have been told our talent has increased each year but our coaching staff has not changed yet we have the same results. That must say something! As for Buck Pierce being our OC, I'm not so sure. Rational; I have watched our QB and receivers throughout the past two years and have seem little improvement in their abilities at their respective positions. They obviously have talent otherwise they would not be on the team but seems to me they have not progressed. I only have to look at Calgary, Sask, Hamilton to see how QBs are developed and I honestly don't see that here. So can he get results as an OC rather than a QB coach, I'm not sure. But with that said there are lots of good offensive minds out there who may be recent players or students of the game that could certainly do better than our current OC. They may not be successful in all the stats as we currently are but there is an old saying "stats are for losers" and we sure fit that description well!

After watching last night's game, I am really more concerned than ever about Lapo, Hall and MOS. I don't think it will matter what QB is put in, Streveler with his ability to run and throw medium to short passes, McGuire with his ability to throw in the pocket or whomever, I don't think any will be successful. Even Nichols as successful as many here think he was within the system will never be successful because of the restraints that are put on because of the system LaPo implements. Yes our offense leads the league in many categories but that does not translate into wins, in fact it translates into losses with his don't lose philosophy late in games. On the defensive side as has been mentioned before, the bend don't break philosophy is proving to be problematic in many ways and again while it may sustain the team for most of the game it fails when needed most. And then there is MOS, the what second most tenured coach in Blue Bomber history and is barely above if above the 500 mark in wins and losses. He perchance for loyalty beyond the pale is disturbing and counter procuctive. The lack of preparation (referring to grooming QBs) is not unlike what we have seen before in Bomber town but why continue down a non productive path? And personal selection is yet another which I put on all of the above along with Walters. It has become painfully obvious, especially against eastern teams, that our secondary is absolutely terrible. Our safety is very vocal but cannot play to the level of his talk. Our defenders are great chasing the receiver but never look for the ball and are constantly beaten. They play back far too much from the line....is this because they are afraid the receiver will beat them.....well they do and with regularity. I find it difficult to rationalize that this is entirely the player but rather the paly design.. If for example a player is playing too far from the line why isn't someone telling them to move up or coaching on the sidlines. Why are adjustments not made at half time? That to me is coaching 101. And has anyone mentioned the drop off of play our start middle linebacker? He seems to be running all over the place while leaving the middle of the field wide open hence in the past two games huge completions in front of our great safety with Bighill nowhere in sight! There are problems in Bomberville whether we want to believe it or not and it is not all on Streveler or the players. Yes they did not execute well but boy our play calling and coaching is not good and will never get us to the Grey Cup. I believe that to be a reality even though I hope I am wrong

Looked like players were going through the motions and mos looked defeated. If this is right then he should be having closed door meetings with his coaching staff. Ever since returning from bye week these guys seem uninterested. Maybe Walters has to have a meeting with the players.....pick it up or pack it up!

Really can’t fault Streveler totally. Lapo play calling terrible as usual...down 3 possessions and we are throwing 7-10 yd passes! Interesting that regardless of who the QB might be the plays are the same...says it all yet nothing from management

7 yard pass needing 10 in tight coverage

Well you never know maybe this time we will be the team to adjust and the cats won’t.....do you think?

Get rid of hetch he can’t bring anyone down and chant cover period

Look back for the ball Rios!

Centre of the dense big problem no coverage and a VERY weak safety bad

My only comment would be hopefully the bombers continue to groom mcguire into a legitimate back up. I liked what we saw in the preseason with him so now they have to get him a lot more reps at practice...just in case

Mark I appreciate your comment and I may have been off on his second year stats. The point I was making is he is progressing downward not upward. The majority of his goals and points, I believe come on the power play, he has a reputation from a youngster to the pros of being for myself first and the team second...he even announced it loud and clear when drafted second to Matthews. of course you need goal scores on your team but i would certain argue that a team of 17 players playing for one another rather than a team of 17 players playing for themselves will always prevail over the latter. I can’t help but believe and I have been in many “rooms” that a person displaying the me first attitude that Laine has is a blister under the skin that grows until it bursts. Perhaps that what we saw last spring who knows. I do know that no one in that room is going to wash dirty laundry outside of it. Just my opinion I will also go out on a limb and say he will sign a bridge deal for 2 years at around 6.5 while Connor will sign for 6 years at 7 per year. After two years or sooner Laine will be traded. Just my thoughts right or wrong

I believe we have the talent to beat Hamilton relatively easily. Now I don’t mean ease in that sense but rather if they play as they should with the talent they have it should not be difficult. Now with that Saadi if the game plan is flawed on both sides of the ball or we do not adjust at half time as every team we play does we will not win. So don’t overthink the situation Lapo, don’t back off too far Hall and don’t stop trying to score.! Plan to our strengths not our weaknesses and focus on execution and all will be fine. NOW let’s see what happens

I believe it has been said many times before but to repeat you play to win not play to not lose there is a huge difference. It doesn't mean you have to run up the score but you do have to play call to move the ball and retain possession. Should you score a TD per quarter or a field goal here or there is different than kicking a 3 point field goal with less than a minute remaining up by 20. There is a difference and I have a hard time believing professional football players cannot grasp the difference between being level headed yet fired up and level headed and relaxing. Momentum as has been stated so often in this forum and on TV is a big thing in sports....it can carry you to victory when victory seems lost or losing momentum can lead to defeat when victory seemed secure. Surely MOS and LaPo and Hall understand that so why then do they lay back, become predictable. As has been said here almost appears they outthink themselves. Will we win in November, that remains to be seem but unless the coaches change their approach our momentum is lost I fear.

Interesting article in the FP by Doug Brown this morning. Couldn't agree more with his comments and in fact many comments on this forum are repeated in his article. It starts at the top and filters down to the players. If the top is complacent then that filters down to the players and results in a lack of execution and urgency. So well said