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Part of me wants to see dru brown throw 6 TDs this week. A large part honestly. Cuz that decision right there is what is ******* this team right now and in the future cuz Strev and Wilson ain’t it. Brown showed more in 1.5 seasons than Strev and Wilson have shown now. (Strev ain’t a young guy either ) dude showed he was ready to take over for Zach. He was the next guy. When he played the O actually operated smoother it seemed. The decision to let him go was dumb and honestly, it would be sorta ironic if Dru lit us up and then **** hit the ceiling. Honestly. I’d fire Walters if we lose next game and Dru lights us up so a large part of me hopes this happens cuz complacency is a problem here also. And if Wade and O’Shea agreed with it, they’d be gone too if I owned the team. If Wade was my president of football ops and Kyle was my gm and Osh was my head coach and dru brown absolutely lights us up this week, they would be president gm and coach of the Siberian Tigers.

Could be here for the KFC contract extension announcement also.

Strev for Powell in Hamilton? They like Tuas Bro no. Think Hamilton might take one of our guys also in a maybe bigger deal. Maybe they throw in a receiver (they are stacked there) how do you get Powell plus Bridges to Winnipeg? lol. With Kenny there Bridges ain’t being targeted as much. Last year dude was a rock star tho. I’d take a shot on him.

I vaguely remember reinbold rolling in to his introductory pc on his Harley or something. I think me and my buds all liked the guy. He was cool to us for some reason at that time. I think honestly reinbold era was my first games I remember going to as a fan. I went to ones with parents when a bit younger but reinbold I remember. TJ Rubley is a QB I remember. Not sure if that’s reinbold or not. Possibly.

Tony? Yes. Couple teams are struggling with lber and Tony has the pop on film and star box. What would we get? Idk 3-4th rounder probably? Kyrie? No. Big Stan? Modest return but yes. I think some one would give a 5th or lower to mainly be a player coach who can start in the stretch run. Nichols would get interest, maybe a 2-3rd. Holm maybe 3-4. Vaughters/wj have more value. But wj won’t likely keep it high for as long. 1-2nd. Does having a fire sale help us become a better team sooner? Imo no. I think we’d end up with 2 really good years of rookie ni crops but end up not having enough spaces for those guys. The moves to make would be seeing if we can hold wink any one into giving us value for guys like Thomas/kola. 1 or 2 moves to bring in players who help us today, and possible getting Wilson back from the nfl while jettisoning the worst of what we have. I think a big move that could happen and could help us is actually trading strev. Swapping him for another teams vet back up qb would shake up our locker room in a big way. With all the injuries around the league I think a couple teams would be interested. Maybe you kick in a depth guy/pick to get a slight upgrade in talent and a good upgrade in fit.

That hasn’t been the case in a long while. Doubly so since the coaching cap came in. In league scouting is the worst its ever been by a huge margin. Early in the mafia days we killed it at in league scouting. Since the cap, haven’t found jack. Talent into the league is also down significantly since the nfl pr expansion, increase in nfl pr pay, and the nfls evolution to spread/rpo/spread to run etc schemes that used to not be “pro” systems. When guys get picked up by other teams now, it’s almost always either college overlap scouting, front office/coach moving to a new team and brining guys with them, or grabbing a guy you played against in pre season. Teams are very much fumbling in the dark trying to find talent with very limited tools to do so. This is why we seldom see new players progress to star levels any more, and why every team is hurting for imp talent at multiple spots. That makes it all the harder to watch us cut blue chip guys with out giving many a shot, or guys who actually excelled in camp/ps. We aren’t getting more of that pretty much the rest of the year now. No more LD air lift roster make overs. NFL pr guy in as little as 3 weeks makes as much as a rookie here who starts the whole season once you convert usd/cad and pay Canadian taxes. Rookies and camp cuts don’t have to be all stars immediately, when you play many guys at or below replacement level. Let’s take the easy comparison in Bridges. We easily cut 3-4 dbs better than him. You don’t need to have amazing scouting skills to see that, not when we brought back a tc cut, used a kr who didn’t make it as a db alone, and have two dbs from camp on the pr. Any of those guys would’ve done better than bridges, and offered the up side potential of becoming an all star. Bridges was a known commodity last year. Now do the same with Guys like Kyrie, wr core, bonds etc. Then you can look at well below replacement level Canadians. Because we’ve been under using the allotment of imps, haven’t been playing dis on D/O, haven’t been using the naturalized Canadians, and even a guy like Bailey vs end of PR Canadians like ball/kornelson. What you end up with is a big, big pile of roster spots that give us far below replacement level, that we could’ve used to develop younger more talented guys who performed better in camp/ps. You could even flip a far below replacement level Canadian (kola, Thomas, Corcoran etc) for an import who has already shown flashes of being better than replacement as an imp. Which is a huge talent swing. We’ve tried little of substance to fix the wr core, the mafia has admitted defeat to the 5-6 dl with no viable bodies to rotate, we’ve tried fixing the ol with changes to every spot but kola, and we’ve finally started admitting defeat in the secondary with guys like bridges, and the double switch+ at Sam/s. It isn’t some ridiculous claim to say that guys who got cut out of camp, would’ve been upgrades to guys we kept, who have only continued to struggle or gotten worse. Some positions like qb rely a lot more on nuance/intangibles, and struggle with the speed up to game action. But others, like db/rb/lb etc don’t. Hamiltons poaching efforts (lawler aside) hurt us and helped them with out stars changing place. You might be lucky to have 3-4 stars on your team. The majority of your team is made up of role guys. If those guys play level isn’t as apparent in the stat sheet, and they aren’t getting accolades. But when your depth pieces are suddenly worse than every one else’s, you struggle a lot more. And when you’re go from bottom tier to middle of the pack, you might not have a great D, but suddenly you win a lot more games. Our depth stinks, even the greenest fan sees that. It stinks, because we have failed to develop young guys and move them up the pipeline. When you do that, you end up walking away from good players you shouldn’t have. That is where we are. we likely haven’t Cut any rookie dalton schoen types. But we have cut enough better players that we’ve lost out on a couple that would’ve turned into all stars, and upgrades.

Do ppl think guys like Tony Kyrie and guys of that nature, do they have any trade value? Or are you releasing them instead. No need for the Tony’s and Bryant’s for that matter or Jake’s and Kyries if you are rebuilding. Who has value. Who do you keep? I feel the guys with value are the guys I’d keep. I’d keep Brady. I’d keep Demski. I like what person brings. I like what griffin does. Holm is solid. Nichols is a good vet. You need a few. I mean. Does Willie have value? Vaughters has looked solid but is he required in a rebuild? rebuild starts with the OL tho. Walters should be bringing in every center available. American or not. We start 9 Canadians. We can go 3 USA OL. Why not both tackles and center.

He was the only reason to go to games that year. I mean Reinbold on OB after the game and his overuse of the word, warrior, especially after a 20+point beatdown was funny but it was mainly 85.

True enough about the GOAT tho.

But I mean I might look stupid when 8 and 10 crosses over and we win the cup lol.

In 1997, Milt had over 1600 receiving yards on a team with Chris Vargas and Kevin McDougal as the QBs with no other threat at receiver. He'd make a difference. Hogan needs to go though, you are 100% correct.

3 turds. Was out of town so just watched fully (skipped parts) today. I watched periodically on Saturday but boating fishing and kids and fires more important. Anyways. 1. Hogan - play calling. I don’t know the actual call, none of us do but hogan makes me yearn for last years Buck Pierce. It’s the same playbook pretty sure. It’s like hogan took the worst of Buck last year and said yup, this will do. Brady vouched for this ******. Wonder if he feels the same now. D bag. Sunglasses in every interview just screams D bag. Time to throw him under the bus. 2. I’m gonna put Kola here. Now I don’t think it’s just him, Bryant looks old, Neufeld ain’t it anymore either. Wallace and Randolph are solid I think but they are working with very little. Starts with the center tho on the OL. Ours is awful. He literally blocks nobody. Ever. I’m not an ELi guy but Jesus Christ, maybe it’s time. Then If he sucks you know you need a center. 3. I’m gonna do this one cuz I can’t just chose one. I mean Kelly was bad. Jake isn’t good. I mean. A few guys took turns on D but if it’s more than one, then I’m going Jordan Younger for sending out the Thomas schmekel package way 2 much. And the last drive by Calgary, it’s like we gonna give you the FG but not the TD but a FG wins it anyways. as for who looked ok, Demski Clercius sterns and even collaros in the first half ( I can’t put the shitty play calls on him) and if I’m being fair I can’t put the shitty play calls last week on Streveler either. I can put not converting 3rd down and 1s on him tho. Dillon Mitchell didn’t stand out but he also was targeted 3 times and made 3 catches so. Weird how I think 4 receivers were solid when play calling is a biggest problem on O. It’s not Zach, it’s not Strev, it’s not kola or the receivers, the receivers were solid. They didn’t drop balls. Zach had a high completion percentage. The O play calling is awful. Zach looks frustrated. So does Brady. The OC is the biggest problem by far. Zach was getting the ball out quicker but took a few shots I suppose cuz oline is problem 2. I mean Sergio hit a 63 yarder when we could have ran the clock out or even ran it down so he’s kicking the winner from 23 instead of 63. Just brutal.

Oilers on NTL also. I’ll be honest. I don’t think Kenny lawler and milt in his prime make a difference to this garbage O. Hogan needs to go.

So you **** on O’Shea but basically all your complaints here are above O’Shea. O’Shea didn’t let lawler or Dobson walk. Walters did. O’Shea isn’t the guy bringing in guys, Walters is. Your bias towards O’Shea is showing. we all complain about a guy like Jake but he’s on the roster cuz Walters signed him and hasn’t found a guy to replace him with. CFL you have to dress so many Canadians. Jake is dressed cuz the next Canadian isn’t better. That’s on Walters.

Cyril Penn has done jack ****. Hamilton signed a bunch of free agents. We have years of piss poor camps in his tenure and barely any solid American prospects outside the secondary.

What about Streveler who can’t even do QB sneaks anymore. I’d release him. I’d also fire the OC. Both are just taking up spots really. Play calling is a joke. No adjustments at all. OL has certainly regressed big time but the play calling is pathetic and adds to the problems on O. Wonder who he throws under the bus this week. Also we starting 9 Canadians so really what’s the point in Jake Thomas getting so many reps. Are we trying to lose? Are we tanking cuz the 1st overall pick is generational cuz makes no sense. I don’t get that. Playing more Canadians than necessary is fine if they all top tier talent but they ain’t.

Lose next week...start the rebuild and let the best guys play...could cross over and catch lightning in a bottle if they get a good 6..or 8 games as a group

No..but they could be used as rotational pieces and as depth with experience...more use than our 2 Canadian dt's not named Lawson... I didn't say they as singular players are all world..but used accordingly and in tandem with our best guys...we would be better Woli and BOLO would help here...we let Sayles walk for money...hed sure be nice as a mainstay here...Dobson even with still some weak moments would make our line much better Lawler...nuff said...even legs...we could have freed up a DA spot...sure Castillo can make some long bombs...but also has bouts of Mr miss too... Cyril Penn...left basically cause why would he stay when his work basically gets pissed on by a coach who just keeps rostering the same ol same ol...he could have stayed here but folowed Goviea We let guys go with no viable plan B...or hang onto the belief some of the slugs and pylons we have kicking around are adequate...and they are not and hence here we are

Sterns would be a great option after a healthy Schoen and Lawler .. with Demski and Clercius. That's a receiving corps. But again, I have no interest in bitching about what can't be fixed. I love the conversation about where we go from here and fix it within this season.

J.jones not seeing the field at all didnt help...he played a lot the previous game and helped immensely...didnt see much of him last night...why is the question Been saying for several yrs...our roster management....player reps and utilization of our guys for best impact has been wretched Also I stand by my claim osh is heavily Canadian biased...and it hurts us...reason why too he won't utilize rules afforded to him...he doesn't like them...and was outspoken against them when originally implemented...talk about not putting team first over your bias...

So you'd cut Adams/Woods, Person and J Jones for those 3? I wouldn't. Can complain about how they are using Americans on D...but those 3 in Hamilton as players are nowhere near being impact players. Average is probably overstating their impact on D...both here and now half a season in Hamilton.

Kelly looked lost.......

@DTonOB you have some defensive rep numbers for our DA's? I know Vavals will be squewwed as he was an injury replacement but curious on others..and not including goaline/shortyardage reps as they basically just a body What kinda reps did CGY's DA's get in comparison?

If sterns is our best..we in a world bad...hes good if we had 2 other imports as tha marquee guys and he has his role...but as your numero uno...ouch

Ok Sterns, am I wrong that if he's your third American receiver, you're ok but more than that and your hooped?