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One guy I remember. However, he did rotate a ton of starters in and out of the lineup and that was also a lot of the problem players had with him. Then mentioned to the media that they were out because he wanted to send a message. Like I said earlier, that's a good thing for a coach to do. What's not good is going outside your dressing room to the media to explain it.

Stan doesn't worry me much, and we are in a great spot if he suddenly hits the age wall. Would be nice to pick through the FA's and get some NAT depth, but what we have is not too bad either.

well Kramdi was worked and used at safety already...And Griffin was used at SAM and was our best SAM in yrs since Darby before he got yanked for Kramdi 3 import oline is easy...especially if we go 3 canadian recievers, but we dont even have to....Have a C and Guard...BO...Demski and another Cdn reciever...thats 5...Lawson and Kramdi on defence..theres the 7...And you rotate in Shay/Smith....Bailey....easy peasy

You should post what Stevens said,

Jury is out on our C until he proves himself, but our OGs need not worry much about OTs. I highly doubt Randolph displaces Stan/Broxton at OT. He probably plays inside over Vanderpool.

Farhan isn't wrong.... in 4 seasons Tommy has thrown 12/21 passes for 83 yards. He's carried the ball 210 times.

I think we knew we would be landing Broxton before we re-upped Big Stan and he gonna be a big part of the lineup regardless...Broxton will be his replacement next yr, and he has also played RT too, so Stan has earned to be in his spot, and compete for it....and if in camp the 2 Tackles show they deserve to be playing then Stan I bet becomes the super 6th and will be on the field a lot regardless....and what a backup to have if a tackle goes down Yeah he is 40....but he really showed no real drop in play last yr, and times when it seemed he would at times get beat wide...was it an issue of him compensating a bit to his right with Wallace growing pains and Kolo...just being Kolo?...Me thinks so

I don't think they move Kramdi to safety or Griffin to SAM. I don't think they'll have Vaval as a full time CB as well as our returner. Lots of " if's " in your thoughts. Not sure on the math whether 3 import OL is doable with some versions of the moves. While I don't like Vaval at CB in a dual role it does free up an import spot. So in that sense it makes the 3 import OL possible. The other versions I'm not as sure. None of these suggest having another DL as a DI. Going with raw talent outside I'd question and little DL depth inside scares me.

So what's left for us this offseason? The biggest need is on the DL. We got about 13 guys, fairly evenly split between inside and out. We for sure need a few more pass rushers, an import nose or two, and some Canadian talent inside or out. I expect that to be filled by rookies and draft picks. On OL, we got 18 guys already, which is crazy, especially when we already have more starters than spots. We have a ton of imp Ts who are actual tackles for once as well. Even though tackle is our deepest position now. We still need to draft some OL talent, as you basically always need to. And add Centre depth. At Back, another Canadian FB who is a natural blocking type would be good. Even better if they are an H back/te. Another Canadian RB would be good for camp, though it's a low priority and low chance to make the team. At WR, we have about 18 guys. We only have 3 guys, 6'2 or bigger, and one of them is 180lbs lol. I expect we will add around 5+ more. Need more young Canadians as always, and some big down field possesion guys. I expect that to be all rookies as well. Would love to see us get a big down field guy who kicked around the NFL a while and is further along. QB, I don't think what we need is going to be available for a backup. So just the best of a bad fa group. Lber, we got 14 + guys, and both the starters and AR are going to be impossible to take spots from, unless we see a huge rash of injuries. DB, we have 21 guys and only 2 are 30+. It's pretty good, also with a deep core of starting options. A couple more bodies are likely for the rookie camp. I'd love to see a couple more modern Sams who are bigger db/lber tweeners and a bit more true cover-corner types. On teams, someone to push the punter and take reps off both him and Sergio in camp would be good. Doesn't hurt to audition kickers in this league either. No matter who you have. Vaval is pretty locked in if healthy, but we really need some KR depth. We need guys to eat up reps in TC, and an insurance policy for Vaval. Our kick cover team is in a great spot. More versatile guys with size who excel in blocking would be ideal. Maybe a project type to develop. (Canadian H-back would be clutch) All in all, the roster is in a pretty great spot for this time of year. Definitely in the top group competing to win the off-season. Going into camp, that is the best move and line-up imo. Though the Ts have to win their spot, and so do Paddy and Eli. Vanterpool, I think, would be damn hard to beat at G. That or, like was discussed fully previously, you slide big stan inside.

I genuinely wonder about where Big Stan fits in... if you consider a potential starting line up of Broxton-Vanderpool-Eli-Paddy-Randolph.... where does Stan play that makes this group better?... Could he dress as a DI and play TE on 6-man sets?.... that would be an easy way to count him as a DA

With no experienced backup qb. I mean, Tommy Stevens went on a rant on X a few weeks ago when Farhan Lalji called into question his ability to actually play qb other than short yardage. Stevens got all bent out of shape & went after Lalji calling him out. I guess we now know Stevens will never agree on doing a TSN interview with Farhan. Now Stevens may have to back up those angry words if Harris ever goes down. He'll be Da Man!!

anyone of WJ...Bryant...Wilson,,,Jones...Nichols...Griffin...Holm...Broxton...White can be that "8th" who is the Nationalized one, so no worries there Also Bailey can come in in lieu of a Canadian to make ratio requirements if we declare more than 1 on defence

So, ONE guy???

I like @Booch line up but think we may need an 8th Canadian or a fake Canadian.

I can say with confidence...whoever takes the center spot...will be better than what we had the last several yrs....so that is a net positive as it will radiate right across both sides of the line And if they come out of camp dominant, and gelling and ol ZC has a couple games early on where he could have a sandwich...some potatoe chips...lil kool aide on the side...and just disect defences....that would be the best thing too

Still not convinced it will be Eli at C, but if it is then certainly having Stan/Boxton bookending is going to allow the OGs to do better, which takes pressure off Eli as well.

Moreso as well the 2 guards not having to worry or try and compensate to whats on their left...and right

Combination of Big Stan and Broxton (I'm assuming) on the left side is going to be wild. Eli should have a tonne of confidence in the middle when he doesn't have to worry about anything to his left. Snap the ball and do your job.

I like our roster coming in this year as well. We addressed all 3 areas of major weakness with some PROVEN talent. Boxton, White, Ceresna are all premier players. Instead of losing 3 all star calibre players like we did last year we added 3. Those are huge move the needle signings.

Agreed. Kenny last year would have helped, and this year would be more impactful likely.

so as it see it currently...not based on any further signings, or what happens in TC....Our defence could shake out as such as a base set Allen...Nichols...Kramdi...Holm....Moxey Wilson...Jones...Griffen WJ...Lawson..Ceresna..One of Jenkins/Romanowski and Bailey rotating When we go 3 Dlinman front lots of variations with Woodbey and I can see Smith and Shay subbing in an when we do those other sets where Hallet came in as well chaing guys but not really doing much that could be Vaval's role if he doesnt take the other Corner spot Thats a far cry from last yr and the making of a pretty stout defence Offensively Bryant...Vpool/Randolph...Eli...Neuf...Broxton and Wallace as the 6th Gimme Banks outside...Demski..White...Pokey....Neild/Clercius.... And of course ZC and BO in backfield.....and the key...an O.C who has had success in the league That looks light yrs ahead of where we were, and camp and the rest of FA hasnt even concluded yet I'm just thinking good luck teams stopping is on second and short and Jumbo when you could have a side of the Oline with Eli..Broxton..Wallace...Bryant ..grading road yup....and dide scored 14 td's....pretty much double any other reciever...so obviously was money in red zone or just getting in for paydirt

No doubt about it. Kenny wasn't going to save our season, but he would have been one step up the ladder from where we were and sure would look great in blue and gold this year as well.

Can't remember exactly, I'll see if I can find specifics. It was a DB I know that.

Tell me what players Mace threw under the bus? I'd really like to know... Looks like most of their free agents signed extensions because they wanted to stay & not leave as you are trying to suggest. Yes, some players left just like any other team. It happens every year especially on a defending Grey Cup championship team because everyone wants to be paid & it's impossible. Mace lost some very good players to be sure but he also kept a lot of great ones, too. Why am I defending Mace? I defend him because he's a very good coach. To say otherwise would be stupid. I don't have to automatically hate him just because I hate the Riders. I still respect him & what he's accomplished. Mace has never been in over his head as a Head Coach like Craig Dickenson was. From Day 1, he had a vision of what he wants & he coaches that way. Treats his players like men as he should & they respond positively. He makes them accountable for their actions everyday. Mace doesn't play favourites or gives any free rides, He's also a Grey Cup Champion Head Coach. Which makes it all the more sweeter to beat him when we play the Riders. Rider Signings for 2026: Thomas Bertrand-Hudon extended Jacob Brammer extended Tevaughan Campbell extended Jack Coan extended Jayden Dalke extended Samuel Emilus extended Kerfalla Emanuelle Exume extended DaMarcus Fields extended Jaxon Ford extended Jamarcus Hardrick extended Trevor Harris extended Kee Sean Johnson extended Lake Korte-Moore extended Nelson Lokombo extended Aubrey Miller Jr extended AJ Ouelette extended Mike Rose extended Caleb Sanders extended Kian Schaffer-Baker extended Tommy Stevens extended

As I stated earlier, MOS took it too far the other way, but a coach showing loyalty to his players is exactly the right move for player retention in the long run. Throwing players under the bus leads to exodus in the offseason. That is what is happening in Saskatchewan right now. If you are seriously suggesting that the core of our talent stayed here on cap friendly deals in the peak of their careers to avoid being cut elsewhere you have truly gone off the deep end. We received many favorable contracts from players who turned down bigger offers elsewhere. I am not seeing that kind of loyalty to the Riders with the exception of Trevor Harris, to whom your point may apply. Just as you don't get my criticism of Mace, I really don't understand your praise of him?