bustamente Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I'm not too concerned with them bidding on high prices free agents. I'm fine with draft and develop. But I hope they are weary about giving second tier guys like Ladd elite level money because he's a "superstar" on the jets. This is probably why he hasn't signed yet, also the way he is playing is not helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 "Superstars" rarely to never make it to free agency. You have to draft them and hope they turn in to one. As for this forum will turn after a couple wins.... I'm not sure about that. When was the last good 60 minutes the Jets have played. It's been a while. Quite a while. Hutch was the reason they beat the Blackhawks... Hawks outplayed them big time. The team has looked bad since their loss to the nyi... just got a couple wins because of good goaltending. Since losing to Montreal they have looked awful and have gotten worse. 7 0 is irrelevant... it's how they played that is concerning. Very little effort. 3 guys show up most games... little wheeler and Scheif... not gonna win with only 3 guys showing up. I'll throw in ehlers too... these 4 guys are trying night in night out... the rest tho look lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I agree. I think we've seen this too many times to be hypnotized by a decent stretch. Six games of good play won't make people think they've turned a corner. We thought they turned a corner last year. It will take extended and consistent quality play to make fans think the jets have turned a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Ehlers hit the post four or so times in five games. that guy will be scoring sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Ehlers hit the post four or so times in five games. that guy will be scoring sooner or later. When they make the nets a couple inches larger! Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'm not gonna go after the rookies cuz quite frankly.... they aren't the problem. The entire D is the big problem and none of them are rookies. Ladd turning pucks over constantly... he's not a rookie. Stafford doing nothing the last several games... he's not a rookie.... Perreault even... not a rookie. The Jets have much bigger issues than Ehlers Petan and Copp who all actually look pretty good most nights... Petan with Scheifs and Wheeler last night looked real good in the third... that was the line creating chances or at least keeping the puck in Nashville Zone. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 The Jets systems need to be tweaked as there PP is horrid and barely gets a shot on goal, there PK is way to passive with no net presence. The defensive play is all over the place with d men getting caught all the time, there goaltenders are ahl at best, but there is a small good nucleus on the team with Little, Wheeler, Scheifele, Coop,and Ehlers, Add Petan who is a year away ,Trouba once he gets he head in the game, Myers when he doesn't try to do things he can't ,and Perrault when his vision gets better, Everything is not doom and gloom but the chemistry on these team is not what we thought it was. Ladd and Buff i'll leave out of the equation for the moment because if they continue to lose the decision will be easy for Chevy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 "Superstars" rarely to never make it to free agency. You have to draft them and hope they turn in to one. As for this forum will turn after a couple wins.... I'm not sure about that. When was the last good 60 minutes the Jets have played. It's been a while. Quite a while. Hutch was the reason they beat the Blackhawks... Hawks outplayed them big time. The team has looked bad since their loss to the nyi... just got a couple wins because of good goaltending. Since losing to Montreal they have looked awful and have gotten worse. 7 0 is irrelevant... it's how they played that is concerning. Very little effort. 3 guys show up most games... little wheeler and Scheif... not gonna win with only 3 guys showing up. I'll throw in ehlers too... these 4 guys are trying night in night out... the rest tho look lost Honestly, I don't think they have played a full 60 minutes in any game this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 "Superstars" rarely to never make it to free agency. You have to draft them and hope they turn in to one. As for this forum will turn after a couple wins.... I'm not sure about that. When was the last good 60 minutes the Jets have played. It's been a while. Quite a while. Hutch was the reason they beat the Blackhawks... Hawks outplayed them big time. The team has looked bad since their loss to the nyi... just got a couple wins because of good goaltending. Since losing to Montreal they have looked awful and have gotten worse. 7 0 is irrelevant... it's how they played that is concerning. Very little effort. 3 guys show up most games... little wheeler and Scheif... not gonna win with only 3 guys showing up. I'll throw in ehlers too... these 4 guys are trying night in night out... the rest tho look lost Honestly, I don't think they have played a full 60 minutes in any game this year. And that right there is the concerning part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Too many guys playing shitty to be honest...in no order at all I think the following have underachieved this season...I think more was expected of them...The season is still young and there is lots of time to turn it around but I don't see a lot of signs pointing to it. Ladd Myers Buff Chiarot Lowry Burmi Trouba Perrault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 what's up with Meyers? Wasn't he really good last season? He smothered ovechkin in a game last season that I watched... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 He's on pace for a 23 point season and much more was expected of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 ...and much more was expected of him. That statement could apply to most of the Jets. Myers is not a hitter at least not in the Buff way despite his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Nope, he sure isn't and you are right....a LOT of Jets' players are not playing up to expectations. Mostly vets but Scheif and Trouba aren't doing themselves any favors in a contract year....ditto Lowry. Not sure about Scheif....he started the year out playing like someone about to play a season on an up and coming elite player but that play has dropped off. I like his attitude and work habits but.....Like to see him between Ehlers on the LW and Wheeler on the RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Scheif seems to always generate opportunities. I had him pegged as the scoring leader on the Jets this year. Just seemed to finally click. One of the media analysts compared him to Stamkos (!), cant remember which one. Part of it might be Ehlers hitting about 3000 posts. If half those go in, Scheif's numbers go up too. Perreault seems to be having a down year. Then you've got Wheeler who is a force every shift. Would like to see Wheeler with Scheif but putting all eggs in one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Scheif seems to always generate opportunities. I had him pegged as the scoring leader on the Jets this year. I feel bad, I thought Lowry be ahead of Schief this year. Forgot about the jinx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Scheif seems to always generate opportunities. I had him pegged as the scoring leader on the Jets this year. I feel bad, I thought Lowry be ahead of Schief this year. Forgot about the jinx. I dont see Lowry being that type of player. I think he maxes out as a shut down center. Scheif *should* be out #1 center sooner or later which means among the top scorers on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 The problem is... Maurice doesn't treat the players equally, the rookies get a very very short leash, one mistake and they are on the bench or sitting... yet Stuart plays every game, Burmi has played every game, Whats the solution tonight? Play Peluso.. Yup. That is not using the roster properly.. we have tons of skill but... instead of promoting the skill and seeing what happens, maurice promotes thorburn to the third line and peluso is gonna play tonight cuz hey, why try to play hockey when you can just take dumb penalties over and over and over with no consequences. You can't sit them all right but... Heres what i'd do.. Myers,Toby <-- they play well together Buff,Chiarot <-- worked well last year Trouba, Pardy <-- why not Stu sits, consequences, a message needs to be sent that taking dumb penalties and playing like crap is unacceptable... Ladd,Little (why break those 2 up), Petan <-- why not, let the guy play with some skill guys Ehlers,Scheif,Wheeler Perreault,Lowry,Stafford <--- Playmaker Perreault with scorer Stafford and big bodied do all the dirty work Lowry 4th line is irrelevant but... Thorburn, Peluso and Burmi need to be benched to once again send a message that dumb play is not acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I like that goalie. For the 4th Id consider bringing up a Moose player tjay has hustled and put him with Copp and Petan. A reward and add some exciting jump to the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Armia or Lipon would be the 2 I'd consider. Probably Lipon since he had a good camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Lipon would be my first choice as well. I'm not sure Chiarot deserves to play if you are sitting them for their play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Stu doesn't deserve to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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