Since I enjoyed the old time wrestling talk figured it needed its own thread, was thinking of a top 10 kinda thing;

 

1. Fav Wrestler:

2. Fav. Character:

3. Fav. Face:

4. Fav. Heel:

5. Fav Finisher

6. Fav. Tag Team:

7. Fav Moment:

8. Fav guy on the stick:

9. Fav foreign object:

10: fav catch Phrase:

 

For me Ive pretty much always been a WWF/WWE fan since the 80-90's so it'll probably be heavy with 90's WWE or attitude era,  anyways;

 

1. wrestler: Bret Hart (strictly wrestling ability)

 

2. character: Papa Shango

 

3. Face: I dunno if you'd necessarily call him a "face" but Stone cold was always one you could cheer for

 

4. Heel:  Razor Ramon god was he greasy lol that toothpick flick was the best slap in the face ever. I was one of those marks that cheered for the 1-2-3 kid when he beat him

 

5. Finisher: Ahmed Johnson's Pearl River Plunge (i thought it was called a tiger power bomb or something?) or Mr. Kenndy (now known as Mr. Anderson in TNA)'s top rope move that he put guy on his shoulders then flipped - he doesnt do it anymore tho cuz it really messed up his neck.

 

6. Tag Team: Legion of Doom as a kid,  it was like demolition but cooler to me cuz they wore shoulder pads with BIG spikes,  not S & M attire lol

 

7. Moment: I would have to say watching Shawn Michaels super kick Marty Jannetty thru the barb shop window was what turned me onto wrestling that was mind blowing at my age

 

8. Talker: tbh I think the rock has made me laugh more then anyone for as long as i can remember

 

9. Foreign Object: I miss the trash cans

 

10. Catch Phrase: when it first came out, again going with the rock, when he would interrupt with "it doesnt matter what you think" was like the verbal toothpick flick, or telling people to shut their mouth and know their role. 

 

Shockmaster was Dusty Rhodes' brother-in-law and he was meant to be serious.  Apparently, a piece of wood that he tripped over wasnt there during rehearsals.  The voice is Ole Anderson.  Ole was an awful booker.

 

This is proven when he tried to salvage the character and introduced.... Super Shockmaster, the nephew of the original Shockmaster (even though it was the same wrestler playing both characters)!

 

 

Yes and made him uncle Fred (real name Fred Ottman I believe) and he was a clumsy oaf.  Reminded me of a local character for, WFWA I believe it was.  Cant remember his name but he had a masked gimmick and was a clumsy oaf.  He got over with fans so they made the story that he just had poor vision and once he got glasses he was a great wrestler.

 

Ole also came up with Black Scorpion, another embarrassment which used Ole's voice for the promos.

oh man worst gimmicks, 

 

the patriot

duke the dumpster droese

bastian booger

Dude Love (sorry Foley)

TugBoat

The Patriot was super over though.  Even in WWE, he came in at the right time with Bret doing the Anti-USA gimmick.

 

And Dude Love, I didnt like it at the time but it served the purpose in storyline of making Mick a Vince ally leading to Survivor Series 98 (my favorite PPV from a pure storyline perspective)

I remember the patriot getting over, i just didnt like the character, john cena in a mask reminds me of someone who belonged in this old classic

 

 

as for dude love,  i just didnt like the hippy-ness. Cactus Jack and Mankind were pretty good characters on their own, just too goofy imo

 

vs 

that looks like an ugly baby dolph ziggler and lana would have in todays wwe

1. Randy Savage

2. The Undertaker - dead man version, not the biker. Ted Dibiase's million dollar man was also great.

3. Steve Austin

4. Rick Flair

5. Razor's Edge

6. The Road Warriors, pre-WWF/WWE. Once they came to WWF/WWE they seemed to be booked a lot weaker.

7. Randy Savage crushing Ricky Steamboat's larynx with the ring bell. Like most kids I cheered for the good guys, but that was the moment I realised the heel's were cool. Another great moment was Ted Dibiase kicking the basketball away from the little kid just before he bounced it enough times to win $100 (or was it $300).

8. The Rock was probably the best, but it's hard to argue against Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, or even Chris Jericho.

9. Mick Foley using a forklift to pin The Rock

10. And that's the bottom line son, 'cause Stone Cold said so.

If anyones most shocking moment when Jeff Jarrett and Karen Angle Jarrett returned to TNA wrestling (last night)....?  Anyone?  No?  Okay.  :-)

These old time wrestlers are when I stopped watching wrestling:

 

1. Fav Wrestler: If you mean technically, it's gotta be Ricky Steamboat. Just favourite overall was Hogan. I was a massive Hulkamaniac as a kid.

2. Fav. Character: Undertaker

3. Fav. Face: Hulk Hogan

4. Fav. Heel: All of NWO (when it started) & Honky Tonk Man. Manager was unquestionably Heenan

5. Fav Finisher: Savage's elbow drop

6. Fav. Tag Team: Road Warriors

7. Fav Moment: Hogan saving Macho Man for the first time

8. Fav guy on the stick: Rock

9. Fav foreign object:

10: fav catch Phrase: any of the Rock's were good

 

@Sweep The Leg - How could I forget HonkyTonk Man.  Awesome character.  I've had the pleasure of working with him many times in Manitoba.  Even took him to Burton Cummings house and have some video of the two of them singing HTM's theme song together.

That Shockmaster bit was terrible.

 

Another for the terrible gimmick list is Isaac Yankem, which was Kane dressed up as an evil dentist.

1. Fav Wrestler:  Bradshaw

2. Fav. Character:   The Undertaker

3. Fav. Face:  Hulk Hogan

4. Fav. Heel:  Razor Ramon

5. Fav Finisher:  Clothesline from Hell

6. Fav. Tag Team:  APA or New Age Outlaws

7. Fav Moment:  The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan

8. Fav guy on the stick:  Stone Cold

9. Fav foreign object:  Steve Blackman's Kendo Stick

10: fav catch Phrase:  If you're not down with that, I got two words for ya!!  SUCK IT!!!!!

Favorite feud:  Doink and his midget crew Dink, Pink and Wink vs Jerry Lawler and his midget crew Sleazy, Cheesy, and Queasy

Why is Bradshaw your favourite?

 

For feud, how about Hillbilly Jim, Little Beaver, & Haiti Kid vs King Kong Bundy, Lord Littlebrook, & Little Tokyo?

Why is Bradshaw your favourite?

 

For feud, how about Hillbilly Jim, Little Beaver, & Haiti Kid vs King Kong Bundy, Lord Littlebrook, & Little Tokyo?

 

I don't know I just thought Bradshaw was great when I was younger.  I thought the APA gimmick was hilarious and I loved the emphasis on hardcore matches during that time.  Bradshaw was great in those matches and the clothesline from hell was such an awesome finisher.

 

I stopped watching while he was still Bradshaw and when I started watching again I didn't realize JBL was the same guy for months.

JBL was a great gimmick.  But he always sucked.  And still does.

JBL was a great gimmick.  But he always sucked.  And still does.

 

Nah he was awesome back in the day and his commentary is fantastic now.

 

JBL was a great gimmick.  But he always sucked.  And still does.

 

Nah he was awesome back in the day and his commentary is fantastic now.

 

Commentary is very counter-productive.  He's the "voice of Vince" (ie. Vince in his ear telling him what to say) and buries guys a lot.  WWE used to be about cycling guys up to the top and now they are about getting no one over.

Oh this again!  Spare us!

Burying guys is entertaining but it isnt productive.

Burying guys is entertaining but it isnt productive.

 

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!"

 

Burying guys is entertaining but it isnt productive.

 

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!"

 

If you're watching wrestling and the way the announcers perceive the talent doesnt impact how you view them, then you're not the audience they're speaking to.  In other words, if you're watching in a "not taking it seriously" role, then really, none of what wrestling does as an industry to present and promote it's wrestlers and angles really makes much of a difference to you.  Though I'd argue that on a subconscious level it probably does.

 

 

Burying guys is entertaining but it isnt productive.

 

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!"

 

If you're watching wrestling and the way the announcers perceive the talent doesnt impact how you view them, then you're not the audience they're speaking to.  In other words, if you're watching in a "not taking it seriously" role, then really, none of what wrestling does as an industry to present and promote it's wrestlers and angles really makes much of a difference to you.  Though I'd argue that on a subconscious level it probably does.

 

 

How can you take it seriously?  JBL hates the faces and loves the heels.  What part am I supposed to be taking as serious commentary?

 

 

 

Burying guys is entertaining but it isnt productive.

 

You say that like fans are taking JBL seriously when he says "Face X is terrible!"

 

If you're watching wrestling and the way the announcers perceive the talent doesnt impact how you view them, then you're not the audience they're speaking to.  In other words, if you're watching in a "not taking it seriously" role, then really, none of what wrestling does as an industry to present and promote it's wrestlers and angles really makes much of a difference to you.  Though I'd argue that on a subconscious level it probably does.

 

 

How can you take it seriously?  JBL hates the faces and loves the heels.  What part am I supposed to be taking as serious commentary?

 

Thats sort of the point.  The announcers' job is supposed to be to help get the talent and the stories over.  Jim Ross was very good at that.  Gorilla and Jesse were good at that.  Cole and JBL are not good at that.  It's the "new way" WWE does things between Vince and their long-time producer Kevin Dunn.

Ok.  Still not hearing what he doesn't do well.  Seems to me that he fills the role that Lawler filled with JR.