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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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Trust me, I love Patrick Stewart.  I'm just wondering what kind of show an 78 year old, being the main star, is going to be able to do.

Total teaser, No useful info at all. LOL.

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Total teaser, No useful info at all. LOL.

I thought so but they did say there are at least 8 eps.

1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I thought so but they did say there are at least 8 eps.

It's a typical promo piece. Hey, I understand. They don't want to give anything away so I'm okay with it.

FYI - Picard was 74 during the events of Nemesis.

On 2018-12-06 at 11:15 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

canon error!  In TNG episode "Tapestry" Q transported a critically injured Picard back to his academy days and he had hair!

That wasn't an error.

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10 minutes ago, Jacquie said:

FYI - Picard was 74 during the events of Nemesis.

That wasn't an error.

In Nemesis, young Picard was shown to be bald (as depicted by his clone and a photo of Picard in the academy).  It was kinda silly to make young Picard bald just to fans would see the clone as a clone.

Life expectancy for humans in TNG was around 100 years. So, presumably, he could be 100 now and still be quite functional and active. 

16 hours ago, JCon said:

Life expectancy for humans in TNG was around 100 years. So, presumably, he could be 100 now and still be quite functional and active. 

McCoy was 137 in TNG.

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Picard was born in 2305.  And the new series takes place in 2399.  So he will be 94 years old.  The actor is 78.  Given the advances in medical science and life expectancy, it seems like a reasonable thing, to have a near 80 year old depict a near 100 year old in the future.

One trademark CBS registered was Star Trek: Reliant.  Some speculate this could a reference to the Picard series as one of his first assignments was serving aboard the USS Reliant.  If so, it would indicate the series is a flashback series of some kind (unless he, as part of the plot, ends up using his old ship...but if he needs an old ship, I'd think it makes more sense to get an old Galaxy Class for the audience familiarity).

As for old-aged Captains, Captain Archer was born in 2112 and died 2245 (one day after witnessing the launch of the original Enterprise).  All the JJ films had him as still serving as an Admiral at 145 years old (he had previously been Federation President).  That seems a bit of a stretch.

 

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Given the advances in medical science and life expectancy, it seems like a reasonable thing, to have a near 80 year old depict a near 100 year old in the future.

Good thinking but if i was not sure about a n 80 yr old Picard you can imagine the 100 yr old Picard idea.

Mama, the prune crop looks fine this year!

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19 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Good thinking but if i was not sure about a n 80 yr old Picard you can imagine the 100 yr old Picard idea.

Mama, the prune crop looks fine this year!

I think they made Picard a bit too old originally.  For example, he took command of the Enterprise in 2364 at age 59.  So was well into his 70's during the films.  

Another item the series might have to deal with is the future from All Good Things which showed Picard in 2395, or almost the same period, and suffering from Inumodic Syndrome, a degenerative neurological disease.  At the conclusion of the episode, Crusher tells Picard that not everyone who has the genes for Inumodic Syndrome would develop it but that he had a very minor defect that could lead to it.  She said it was so minor and difficult to find she had to use an advanced scanner setting to find it.

I always took this as the writers' out.  Q always had a way of helping Picard even when hurting him and one could accept that, had the events of the film not occurred, Picard would never have learned he had that specific defect.  Whether the intent was for Q to inspire Picard to live a full life or to try and cure or treat it early, who knows.  

Many elements of that episode's future didnt come to pass (the Enterprise D was destroyed rather than becoming Riker's ship, Troi didnt die, Data DID die etc.).  Other things did come true (future star fleet emblem, Picard as an ambassador (happened in the comics)).  

In other words, they can probably ignore All Good Things' future...lol

On 2018-12-11 at 3:33 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

In Nemesis, young Picard was shown to be bald (as depicted by his clone and a photo of Picard in the academy).  It was kinda silly to make young Picard bald just to fans would see the clone as a clone.

In Nemesis young Picard was in the Academy. In the episode Tapestry, Picard had just graduated from the Academy. We don't know what year of the Academy was represented in Nemesis. You don't think it's possible that Picard changed his hairstyle over the course of his 4 years in the Academy?

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1 minute ago, Jacquie said:

In Nemesis young Picard was in the Academy. In the episode Tapestry, Picard had just graduated from the Academy. We don't know what year of the Academy was represented in Nemesis. You don't think it's possible that Picard changed his hairstyle over the course of his 4 years in the Academy?

I think its far more likely that in Nemesis they made the clone bald and the images of Picard in the academy bald to make the clone seem more like Picard.

But ofcourse, he could have chosen to just shave his head.  You're certainly correct its possible.  When I made the cannon error reference, it was more tongue in cheek.

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think its far more likely that in Nemesis they made the clone bald and the images of Picard in the academy bald to make the clone seem more like Picard.

But ofcourse, he could have chosen to just shave his head.  You're certainly correct its possible.  When I made the cannon error reference, it was more tongue in cheek.

For Trekkies, there is no such thing as tongue in cheek regarding canon. 😉

1 hour ago, Jacquie said:

For Trekkies, there is no such thing as tongue in cheek regarding canon. 😉

Enterprise ;)

 

1 hour ago, Jacquie said:

For Trekkies, there is no such thing as tongue in cheek regarding canon. 😉

 

3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Enterprise ;)

 

The last three movies. 

On ‎2018‎-‎12‎-‎12 at 7:32 AM, Logan007 said:

McCoy was 137 in TNG.

McCoy was 137 in TOS.

On 2018-12-13 at 8:56 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

McCoy was 137 in TOS.

No, he was 137 when he made the cameo in the premiere episode of TNG.

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1 hour ago, Jacquie said:

No, he was 137 when he made the cameo in the premiere episode of TNG.

That was supposed to be a joke. 

On 2018-12-15 at 7:33 AM, SpeedFlex27 said:

That was supposed to be a joke. 

Don't worry I got it.  I figured you meant that his attitude in TOS was that of a 137 year old because he always wanted to play it safe.

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