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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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After the premiere last night, the reviews are overwhelmingly positive.  Of course, its what you'd expect from one of these red carpet events.  But the descriptions are very similar.  Cinematic.  Amazing SFX (some remarked the FX are better than what has been seen in the trailers).  Music.  Make up.  Lots of "Trek Lore", shocking twists and surprises.

About The Orville, it needs to decide if it's a spoof or not. It's playing the middle ground and, in my opinion, failing. If it doesn't get more engaging, it will die.

Hopeful for ST:D

 

Wait, that looks wrong. I'm not wanting an STD :)

29 minutes ago, tacklewasher said:

About The Orville, it needs to decide if it's a spoof or not. It's playing the middle ground and, in my opinion, failing. If it doesn't get more engaging, it will die.

Hopeful for ST:D

 

Wait, that looks wrong. I'm not wanting an STD :)

Think of the fun you'll have in getting it and it will be cheap too I bet!

 

Well, to make it a drama that would require wholesale changes which I don't think will happen.  I too, don't like this middle ground.   The last character I remember from a comedy series who transitioned from that to a serious role was Lou Grant played by Ed Asner. He was Mary Richards boss on the Mary Tyler Moore Show sitcom. When that series ended he had moved from Minneapolis to Los Angeles & went from New Director at WJM TV to a news editor at a fictitious LA daily newspaper which was a drama. So, it's been done before but highly unlikely it'll happen to The Orville.

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They could guy either way, full on spoof or more serious drama.  I dont think they'd have to make too many changes to be a light drama in the vein of a less serious and less pretentious TNG.  Im sure Seth fans are loyal but the comedy is so awkward and lame I cant see the ratings holding up.  Viewership was down a million for the 2nd episode but it was also delayed by 40 minutes or so for Football.  They now switch to Thursdays...

On 9/22/2017 at 4:47 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

The third episode was interesting. It had its moments especially at the end. If you're looking for a comedy it's confusing. If you're looking for drama it's confusing. If you're looking for action it's confusing. But still,  I liked the story.

They could have done so much better.

Spoiler

Have the female at the end resent her parents for not correcting her. Have her come in, be the author but in the end say she would have preferred to be male.

Besides. Rudolph changes his mind? That was simply lame.

 

37 minutes ago, tacklewasher said:

They could have done so much better.

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Have the female at the end resent her parents for not correcting her. Have her come in, be the author but in the end say she would have preferred to be male.

Besides. Rudolph changes his mind? That was simply lame.

 

It is a sci fi comedy. 

Well?

Titles remind me of Westworld.

We knew it was coming but they changed the Klingons again!

Federation ships sure had lots of room back in the day and hexagons everywhere.

So the arc story of the season is the Fed/Klingon war.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Well?

Titles remind me of Westworld.

We knew it was coming but they changed the Klingons again!

Federation ships sure had lots of room back in the day and hexagons everywhere.

So the arc story of the season is the Fed/Klingon war.

 

 

I haven't watched it yet other then the first few minutes.  But the thing that annoys me most about the klingon change is that they all look so generic now.

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7 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

 

I haven't watched it yet other then the first few minutes.  But the thing that annoys me most about the klingon change is that they all look so generic now.

Ill get to my review in a little while.  But most comments I've read (and I share, though they didnt bother me before I saw it) is that on screen is a lot better than the photos and short clips that have been seen.  They are pretty different, unique personalities.  The biggest complaint is that they only speak Klingon (lots of sub titles) and some people felt their dialogue was muffled through the major prosthetic.  I didnt have an issue with this though.

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If you havent watched yet and dont want to be spoiled, dont read my review:

 

I liked it.  It was not perfect.  It was flawed in many ways.  But it was definitely a balls-to-the-wall effort.  TONS of money clearly spent.  Any argument about Orville vs Discovery are totally moot.  Discovery is Star Trek.  And its a film on TV.  VERY cinematic.  Looked beautiful.

The core of the story is interesting and they were careful to make it fit into canon and even had some references to Enterprise (in-directly).  I thought the pseudo religious cult Klingon stuff was weak and cutting back on that would have allowed more room to get to know the human characters we're supposed to care about.

It really a prologue to the "real" story that begins next week.  They spent two hours setting the table.

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9 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Did he ever find out the story behind the "old" Klingon ship?

One of my disappointments is we didnt get much "lore" at all.  There was really no mystery to anything at least nothing rooted in Trek mythology.

So the ship was really just an outcast group of Klingons that had been preserving their dead for centuries.

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