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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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Mary Wiseman also cast as a 4th year cadet.

Looks like a Capt who will go nuts.

On 3/7/2017 at 0:55 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Looks like a Capt who will go nuts.

He is known for casting killing curses.

 

I like this casting.

It's the Internet. There's always someone who wants to spread rumours or be a **** disturber. Let's judge it once it premieres.

What's with Space? All in on Star Trek showing all 4 previous series although the best one DS9 was in the middle of the night so only a few could watch it. Enterprise (which I always liked, sorry) came on at 4 am... Star Trek TOS, Star Trek TNG 7 Voyagerin the afternoons followed by Voyager again in the late evening. Voyager was never may favourite, actually my least favourite of all 4 as I had issues with Janeway who really should have been opposed & replaced by Chakotay after the first season. For someone who constantly preached the Prime Directive to her crew she constantly cherry picked & never used the PD if it interfered in her agenda.

Now Space has removed all 4 series & replaced them with Face Off & Castle? Like WTH? How can they be all in & then all out in a week? Methinks Space expected the new series to roll out this past January & wee using these episodes to build up interest & now it's fizzled out. So they removed all 4 from programming. It's my theory & it belongs to me.

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7 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Casts Rainn Wilson as Original Series Character Harry Mudd.

One of my least favourite characters.

Good lord.

On 3/9/2017 at 9:40 AM, Logan007 said:

He is known for casting killing curses.

 

I like this casting.

Am I getting this right?  Malfoy is the new captain on the new Trek series?

5 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Am I getting this right?  Malfoy is the new captain on the new Trek series?

Apparently.  He has to share a spaceship with mudbloods.  He's obviously going to kill them all.

7 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

Apparently.  He has to share a spaceship with mudbloods.  He's obviously going to kill them all.

Probably just muggles, no?

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

Probably just muggles, no?

How am I supposed to know if they're magically inclined or not?

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Now that The Walking Dead season is over (I haven't watched it yet though), CBS has officially announced Sonequa Martin_Green has joined Discovery as First Officer Michael Burnham (odd name choice).

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Now that The Walking Dead season is over (I haven't watched it yet though), CBS has officially announced Sonequa Martin_Green has joined Discovery as First Officer Michael Burnham (odd name choice).

Double duty I guess. STD is only 10-13 eps so she can fit it in.

Odd but Michael Learned was an odd name too and she turned out fine as Mrs. Walton.

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And FOX counters with:

 

 

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^^^I thought it sounded stupid but the trailer has some decent moments (and stupid ones).  Seth is an unabashed Trek fan though.  How long until Shatner guests on this?  Probably sooner then him guesting in Star Trek.

But how come the effects and designs look better in this than in Discovery?

Hopefully we get a Discovery trailer soon (rumors of something coming Wednesday actually) with updated everything...

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have to say, this gives me hope.  On location filming. Large flip communicator. Large TOS style tricorder. Great costuming. And Sonequa looks great. 

Expect more info dumps today. 

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

have to say, this gives me hope.  On location filming. Large flip communicator. Large TOS style tricorder. Great costuming. And Sonequa looks great. 

Expect more info dumps today. 

Yeah, very reminiscent of the old Trek series.  Those costumes almost look like the stuff Khan's crew wore on Ceti Alpha V.

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Discovery has been increased to 15 episodes for season 1. Trailer is out there. Just waiting for a good version. 

Everuone saying it looks really expensive and well done. 

 

 

I'm not really feeling it.  I agree with most people, it still feels more Star Wars and not enough Star Trek.  I hate the look of the Klingons.  It looks like they turned them into some generic race rather then the rich history and honor their race had, and all the quirks and what not that came with them.

The effects are great, but it's looking like a very generic space show to me.  Should have just continued on years after Voyager.

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The trailers (I prefer the Netflix version) gives me more hope.  We cant make judgements about the Klingons yet because we dont know if they were changed as a creative decision or if there is an in-Universe reason.  I have a feeling there is a reason.  I also get the sense they held a lot back from the Trailer (we didnt even see the Captain of the Discovery and, in fact, I dont think we saw the Discovery at all).

Its a very good cast.  Remember this is just a first-look trailer. 

Im a canon junkie, but a sensible one.  There are things you can change due to modern SFX technology and things that should be respected.  Im seeing a lot of commitment to canon.  The uniforms look like reasonable follow-ups to Enterprise.  The ship in the trailer looks very much like the NX-01 from Enterprise.  The flip communicator, tricorder etc.  Red Alert Klaxxon etc. 

We can speculate on some of the story elements.  Assuming the main character is a human raised by Vulcans.  I was very worried about recasting Sarek but from the limited clips, he seems perfectly fine.  Although others have said the acting all seemed stiff.  One thing about Sarek, people will say "play him unemotional" but he actually seemed mildly annoyed at all times.  Thats how he should be played...lol

The big worries were that the production was "troubled", was cheap etc.  Well, clearly it isnt cheap.  And CBS must think its great to extend the first season.

Fingers crossed!

3 hours ago, Logan007 said:

I'm not really feeling it.  I agree with most people, it still feels more Star Wars and not enough Star Trek.  I hate the look of the Klingons.  It looks like they turned them into some generic race rather then the rich history and honor their race had, and all the quirks and what not that came with them.

The effects are great, but it's looking like a very generic space show to me.  Should have just continued on years after Voyager.

The Space trailer shows a lot more. Klingons have the JJ look.

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13 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

The Space trailer shows a lot more. Klingons have the JJ look.

My friend said the same thing - JJ Klingons.  My understanding is that is not the case.  ie. they resemble them but are not related at all.  CBS is producing this show and Paramount does the films and they dont exactly get along.  CBS would never pay a licensing fee to Paramount or Bad Robot to use their elements when they already own the originals.  I think the look of the Klingons are for a specific reason (some say "ancient" Klingons).

Its possible its just creative license and they are meant to be the same old Klingons.  But we shall see.

Or we could just say...hey budgets change, technology changes, makeup changes. ENT explained the changing Klingon look and ST:DS9 did too :D

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14 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Or we could just say...hey budgets change, technology changes, makeup changes. ENT explained the changing Klingon look and ST:DS9 did too :D

It would disappoint me if they changed the Klingon look that much just for the sake of change.  They have maintained the look and feel of the era with the devices, ships and uniforms.  Even the Vulcans.  Changing the Klingons that much seems more like a specific decision for a reason within the show.

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