gbill2004 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Interesting read: http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24466665/colin-kaepernick-no-longer-has-nfl-combine-record-for-fastest-pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Interestingly enough Tim Burke was clocked at having the "fastest passing the buck" ... Blue-urns, Brandon and Chaosmonkey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Pass speed is basically one of those meaningless statistics. Sure, you have to throw hard and fast to be any good. But looking through that list, it's a list of NFL nobodies other than Kaep. Interesting read though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Pass speed is basically one of those meaningless statistics. Interesting read though. I disagree that speed is not important. We often talk about QBs having 'zip' on the ball. It helps to prevent interceptions if you have some speed and accuracy, which it looks like Willy has. Hall is accurate but has no speed on his throws beyond 10-12 yards. Having speed on your throws doesn't make someone a good QB, but if can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Pass speed is basically one of those meaningless statistics. Interesting read though. I disagree that speed is not important. We often talk about QBs having 'zip' on the ball. It helps to prevent interceptions if you have some speed and accuracy, which it looks like Willy has. Hall is accurate but has no speed on his throws beyond 10-12 yards. Having speed on your throws doesn't make someone a good QB, but if can help. I guess what I should've said is that the FASTEST pass speed is meaningless. I agree you need to throw fast, as that article mentions, if you're under 54 mph you're basically given no chance in the NFL. Who throws the fastest is just a fun blurb stat, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. What does she say about accuracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. What does she say about accuracy? Just not in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 That used to depend on the "protection"- the blocking was always an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcanadian Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. What does she say about accuracy? Just not in the face. Yeah, because then you start getting your....uh...balls whapped down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconNBigBlue Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. What does she say about accuracy? Just not in the face. You went there? You really went there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJBOMBERFAN Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Pass speed is basically one of those meaningless statistics. Interesting read though. I disagree that speed is not important. We often talk about QBs having 'zip' on the ball. It helps to prevent interceptions if you have some speed and accuracy, which it looks like Willy has. Hall is accurate but has no speed on his throws beyond 10-12 yards. Having speed on your throws doesn't make someone a good QB, but if can help. I guess what I should've said is that the FASTEST pass speed is meaningless. I agree you need to throw fast, as that article mentions, if you're under 54 mph you're basically given no chance in the NFL. Who throws the fastest is just a fun blurb stat, though. Just to get back on topic after that fun interlude. While I agree fast does not matter a whole lot, fitting the ball into tight windows requires timely release, leading the receiver, being accurate and some ZIP. While zip is nice, touch is also important and knowing when to take something off a throw to get over the linebackers or on fade routes is equally important. Drew Willy has both of those traits and the zip required to hit out routes on the wider Canadian field is very noticeable in guys that don't have zip as the ball ends up in their end zone. Can't wait until June, hope we fix the line by then. Go Bombers! IC Khari and Brandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Pass speed is basically one of those meaningless statistics. Interesting read though. I disagree that speed is not important. We often talk about QBs having 'zip' on the ball. It helps to prevent interceptions if you have some speed and accuracy, which it looks like Willy has. Hall is accurate but has no speed on his throws beyond 10-12 yards. Having speed on your throws doesn't make someone a good QB, but if can help. I guess what I should've said is that the FASTEST pass speed is meaningless. I agree you need to throw fast, as that article mentions, if you're under 54 mph you're basically given no chance in the NFL. Who throws the fastest is just a fun blurb stat, though. Just to get back on topic after that fun interlude. While I agree fast does not matter a whole lot, fitting the ball into tight windows requires timely release, leading the receiver, being accurate and some ZIP. While zip is nice, touch is also important and knowing when to take something off a throw to get over the linebackers or on fade routes is equally important. Drew Willy has both of those traits and the zip required to hit out routes on the wider Canadian field is very noticeable in guys that don't have zip as the ball ends up in their end zone. Can't wait until June, hope we fix the line by then. Go Bombers! A positive comment... so refreshing to read!! I sure hope Willy airs it out and has many big games for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Its nice to have our quarterbacking situation not riding all-or-nothing on the shoulders of one pivot- we need competition and not a bunch of wannabes with thin resumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 My wife says that "hard and fast" is not always the best. That's not what she told me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Sucks Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Its nice to have our quarterbacking situation not riding all-or-nothing on the shoulders of one pivot- we need competition and not a bunch of wannabes with thin resumes. That's actually exactly what we have in our QB's. None of them have done anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Its nice to have our quarterbacking situation not riding all-or-nothing on the shoulders of one pivot- we need competition and not a bunch of wannabes with thin resumes. That's actually exactly what we have in our QB's. None of them have done anything yet. Which, oddly enough, is a step up from where we've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Samcanadian must be in the high 50's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Glenn being added to the mix... I, shockingly, wouldn't be against it at this point. What say ye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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