BigBlue

"That means that we can predict a teams's future 3rd down percentage with almost crystal ball-like accuracy using passing efficiency stats.... So if we want to know a team's ability to covert 3rd downs, we're far better off looking at passing stats than previous 3rd down conversion rates. And a prediction model is far better off using those passing stats (pass efficiency, interception rate, sack rate) and excluding to-date 3rd down percentage." (your http://archive.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2008/01/is-3rd-down-conversion-percentage-good.html)

I am just trying to isolate predictors instead of coincedental and lagging indicators ... I don't believe efficiency rating is a predictor .... I am suggesting 2nd down performance is one, even when things may not be turning out very well at the moment .... QBs with good 2nd down stats are eventually going to have a great deal of success in the future .... I don't know what other stat predicts as well as that one

My point is to let our site evolve and not have agendas at all ..... let the members decide what they want to do and what they want to support Of course we don't need an identical piece of news to be the source of 3 different start up threads ... neither do we need to merge every thread that is even slightly tangentially related ... if a member thinks an item discussion worthy let them post : it will thrive or sputter and die .... both are fine ... its the posters' interest that determines and no one seems to be able to predict what will catch the members' fancy ... its all about what is fun and interesting, not about artificial rules otherr than we have to keep order and social norms The thing that has to go on this site is ego-ism ..... its the opposite of humility and mutual respect ... on promotes discussion and exchange the other kills it As to you Mike you are a leader on this site and what you say counts for a lot .... your opinion is highly respected but that doesn't always make it right or the best, its just good ... sometimes someone else's opinion is better, every once in a while .... more often it is just different ... if you a leader you are going to take some heat, its just the nature of the beast, and we do need leadership So Mike you can take this personally or you can continue to lead and I hope your choice is leadership however uncomfortable that may be .... you are a difference maker

I believe the opposite is true Mike .... no body wants to go through long long threads .... the only way is to start on the last page and go backwards towards the middle ... very frustrating You also can not see the differing sub thread topics that occur in the giant thread ... the ones that interest you and the ones that don't We used to have a lot of topics but originators kept getting chided by mods as "covered elsewhere" or out rigy merged one thread into another without our say in the matter .... having a thread closed or frozen was considered punishment for being a bad do-bee. Long threads are an enforced culture around here and if we want to be happy we can't really change it Mike let it be known it was better for him to have fewer threads and thats what we have evolved to .... as Mike likes ... for better or for worse

This topic isn't football and its starting to bug me .... I wish the mods would move it to general discussion

Thanks ... corrected

I am feeling good about yesterday's draft, not so much about what we did but rather about what we didn't do. Our picks seemed to reflect that we have most of our pieces in place and I can't remember that since the "Swaggerrville" year when we last visited the Grey Cup. In fact we seem better now than then. Now every spring some poster boldly predicts this is THE YEAR we are going to win the Grey Cup, but it is almost always based on emotion, "gut feel" and fond wishes. Do we have any real facts supported by tough analysis that the Blue could actually bring the Cup back to River City this November?

AND THIS PROVES WHAT? Does it change the position of the horse behind the cart?

sorry i am not finding the chat box ..... where is it?

picking gray is nuts .... he is career nfl-er ... chances of him ever playing cfl is less than 5% ... so use your imagination some place where it could be useful got to go with Walters judgment at #1 .... and we don't need the best player available, we just need a good player that will sign us and play for the next 3 years with us BTW Walters having predraft contract negotiations with Faith is brilliant

I do beliebe you have the horse behind the cart: the number of wins predicts the efficiency ratio, not the other way round .... thats why I am looking for a better predictor

Who is QB Myles Carr?

ACTUALLY MY RESPECT FOR DESJARDINS HAS GONE UP ENORMOUSLY .... his achievement in Ottawa has been amazing and what he has done is worth studying as a pathway to SUCCESS

Personally I have never put much stock in the QB efficiency rating .... to me it just tells me how the team is doing generally, not so much the QB ... I like the TD to interception ratio much better to differentiate the QB .... after that I like total passing yardage divided by passing attempts Recently someone suggested I look at total passing yardage on 2nd downs (perhaps divided bt passing attempts on 2nd down) .... I don't know if the cfl even keeps such stats or the wherewithal to calculate same ... I dunno What is your favorite stat for QB evaluation in the CFL?

1st they lose their OC then their asst gm .... no compensation .... heavy price for that grey cup

Assuming we don't pick a receiver first overall, the very best player ie lineman will be one of the top six who will actually sign with us .... signing a top six lineman means more than being right on subltle differences about who is better than who ... having a top lineman SIGNED before we draft him with our first overall is the only thing that makes sense to me ... otherwise pick your favorite receiver and use the number six spot to get involved in the nfl/cfl crapshoot of who be here at training camp and not down south flaunting their wares The asset of first overall pick is about the power of positon (getting a top player signed) rather than the power of judgment & opportunity (to potentially land the most talented player out there) ... there is a huge difference and we need to understand that

cfl commish should be a marketing expert .... long arm of past accomplishments

compared to nfl risk yes

Whoever the Bombers pick # 1 they should sign him before drafting him .... if he won't sign don't pick him

I disagree ... right now they barely have the "market" to support one team.... but they have the "population" to support 5 teams ... Toronto has to develop a niche clientelle at competitive entertainment value ... we have an exciting product to deliver right now but the prospects have to be educated on how much fun it really is .... that will take wisdom, skill and time and if so it can become a booming "market" (fanbase) By contrast Sask can sustain two teams .... the fans would probably cross buy each other's city .... it would be like having season tickets with twenty games instead of ten .... the entertainment dollar is easily there to do that ... it has no real sports entertainment competition .... and not that much from the music industry either .... in Winnipeg and most cfl cities you have hockey draining entertainment dollars .... not so in Sask and in fact increeased pro football will probably accelerate not diminish ticket sales ... it will be THE thing to do in that province

You can't even reply with logic

if, if and if ... you are all bravado and self indulgent opinion .... i disagree on your assessment of him .... in all humility we don't know and coach see sees stuff

disagree

Anyome heard how Gurley is doing wth his nfl quest?

Riders interview room features Grey Goose and chicken wings Posted on March 25, 2017 by 3Down Staff // 1 Comment CFL Week coverage sponsored by Last Mountain Distillery The Saskatchewan Roughriders interview room at this week’s CFL Combine seems like it was pretty fun place to be. According to Winnipeg Free Press reporter Jeff Hamilton, the Riders had almost two dozen people in the suite at the new Mosaic Stadium as well as some refreshments.