Booch

Biggie makes 190k..Harris 195 k..Nichols is a wash as is making on par what all starters do..actually less than Reilly..Collaros and Harris in Ottawa..Prob was less than Rickey Ray too. Also Wild is on the cheap..as is Dressler and Adams relatively speaking compared to most teams #1 and #2 players and we have only 1 guy even remotely close to what youare paying 3 guys on your d-line in Opo..and he makes less than any of those 3...money isn't an issue here...it's the managements blind thinking to go with who you break camp with...never a recipe for success..Cal Murphy was forever bringing in guys and changing mid season...as was Riley...both of who are the only guys that have won a cup here that most if not all fans on this board would recognize name wise....a big reason why Winnipeg has been able to reach the peak a few times over the last 10 yrs..but never conquer it...

If you want a player...you make it work...and Bighill did say that there was a mutual respect between him and Osh and that he really wanted to play for him...so it helped in the process undeniably

You toss him into a game or two...and make him work hinself off the roster and cut bait...or he makes it impossible to remove him...thats how....Lankford should have been the last resort in this equation...and even then I would probably split reps with Simonese and Peterman in that spot and dressed Flanders in the import roster spot as a non DI or dressed another import for free use on defense

Lol....yup...as much as Jones has shown he sucks as a g.m he does one thing right..constantly brings in guys to try and upgrade what he has..tho some of the guys he kicks tires on are head scratchers. But..they lose a receiver..they bring one in..but we stay pat and recycle a 3rd yr guy with no upside..and really...somewhat useless for the role he is filling in our offence

possibly...unless he is on the 46 and just a gameday scratch...not sure how they manouvered their roster

Well if Walters has it in him...I'd be trying to steal him off the PR...He appears to be a guy who wants to play, and probably sees there being limited opportunity

sometimes though practice is not a true indicator of what a guy will do in a game...happens all the time. Also...I wouldn't hold my breath on Walters making it work on a Zylstra as he didn't on Rogers..or Walker...and doesn't have the guts to sign a guy like that..and cut a Dressler

well then wtf are the guys on PR there for then if Lankford is best option...and a crappy one at that?...I would be hard pressed to think of a team that would pick Lankford up if we dumped him...not even Montreal who just dropped a guy for dropping a sure TD pass in TJ Grahem whom I would take over Lankford in a heartbeat...Even Kavis has the balls to dump a guy for messing up...a guy with significant NFL experience to boot...but we are gonna trot out the same slop over and over

Nope...I know game speed is different for sure...but catching is catching ...Bryant Mitchell sure didn't need to knock off any rust last game for EDM..Tompkins in his first game looked very good with no issues...rust is not a factor if you are practicing all year...they are just polished..good receiver whereas Lankford is not..it's a coaching issue and a loyalty thing being here...plain and simple

well for one...he would have kept running Franklin out there for 3-4 more games for one

Nope...it's not that...and at this point in season there is no rust to knock off for a player who has practiced all year..thats nonsense. And why is he the best for the role..do tell Can he consistently catch a ball without using body??..can he box out a defender to position his body to have best chance to catch ball...caan he out muscle a defender on a 50/50?...can he catch a ball in stride and then make people miss or not go down on first contact?...basically the things you want in that role...well any role for that matter You have to say a confident no to all those questions...but we have a guy in Washington who does all these things....only thing Lankford has on him is tenure and regular season experience and that is where Oshea fails in a coach in his loyalty to that..or his reluctance to roll the dice on a new guy

Not talking about off-season and in TC with guys brought in....it's the in-season adjustments and players brought in....we fail to do that and pretty much every team that sees a weakness or an area where there is an opportunity to upgrade with a player who is available...the Bombers stand pat and throw out the "we are happy with our roster" schtick...even tho it is apparently very obvious there are some soft spots....and pretty much every other team has brought in guys mid-season..who have made a significant impact....I can't even think of an instant where we did that under these guys...and there have been many guys come back to the league the last few years where the opportunity was there...but we don't aggressively go after it trust me former team loyalty only goes so far in the CFL and the $$ value goes a long way..Last year take Derrel Walker for example...if we said hey...u will be our main man..we will pay you 10k more than Edmonton will...he would have been here and you dump Denmark and its done Same as this year..If Zylstra comes free....you offer him what it takes to get him to sign and if it means dumping Dressler...oh well..football business is a ruthless one but it needs to be to be a winner

Things like this is what I commented on before here...as someone who has been in these meetings and you actually know what the design for certain things are..scheme...responsibilities etc...you get to review the how and why things broke down. A lot of times on a forum people sqwuak and moan about things...The Qb has a crap deep ball...Why did the DB leave that guy open...etc..etc..they just don't know the what and why. Football has plays set up where guys are supposed to be in a certain spot...and if 11 guys follow script and one guy deviates..doesn't know where he should be..or plain messes up...and play goes to him well then it fails and sometimes fingers get pointed in wrong direction

Any player can play that role...you just have to send them down the field...to think Lankford is the only player who can play a deep threat is dumb. Plus that deep route guy has to have the reputation that he may just catch it. Oshea just loves the fact he is a team guy..been here a while and is fast...lots of guys are fast and can play that same role...there are fast guys running without the ball...and fast guys who stay fast with the ball...and Lankford has serious ball security skills if he tries to stay fast and actually make moves post catch with ball in his hands...and is also brutal as a receiver if he has to deal with contact or contested grabs

Yeah I hope I am wrong as well....but history keeps repeating here and Oshea has shown at times to a fault he sticks with his guys too long before basically having to make a move to save his arse...or quench the raging fires surrounding the team....That's his one fault that bugs me the most....outside of that I like how he runs the team and goes about things...can he evolve as a coach and fix this...hopefully so...is it Walters playing scared as a G.M and not trying to continually upgrade positions...regardless of what cuts have to be made for it...who knows...but they need to tweek their mindset a bit if you ask me

Hard to tell..as he hasn't had a lot of touches...but from watching in pre-season and practices...he seems very reliable...quick...gets the gritty yards and makes people miss....that being said he is a rookie so don't kow where he is at in the playbook..etc....but I like what I have seen

Awe is there because he is an upgrade all around...and cause of it..Knapton got the pink slip today..thats what aggressive no holds barred GM's do..and what our guys don't seem to have the knads to do And who knows about Mathews...We said we were not interested in going that direction..so most likely didn't ask...no..pretty certain we didn't ask...and wouldn't shock me to see him materialize somewhere up here..and probably right burn us in a game we need to win

Yeah was going to add that in my post...but didn't want to say disparaging things (tho not really disparaging things really) about Oshea... I know /recall him as a player and he played as mean and nasty as there was on close to being on the line..if not over the line at times...and didn't give a crap about it or feel he had to answer for it...or apologize...it's exactly what we need on the defensive side of the ball...we have that on offence somewhat but where and how it occurs is always evident to the untrained eyes

kinda funny...pot...meet kettle

and so it appears to be occurring again..teams are constanlty evolving their line-ups..bringing in new guys at expense of current ones to better their squad...as we stand pat with the same old "we like our guys"...and "he has worked hard in practice"..."we aren't interested in him (Mathews) This is the reason that I don't think this management group has the stones to get over the hump...blind loyalty and "liking" a guy only goes so far...and I agree with what Leggett said last year...we need a couple grade A assbags on the team who play to win and don't give a flying @##$ what people think on how they do it...we have a more than capable locker room to manage and maintain it...time for coaches and management to stop being a bunch of ******* and be old school football men...infuriates me to no end

What rookie receivers are you referring too? A line-up with Adams..Wolitarsky, Tompkins, Demski and Washington rather than Lankford is hardy conceding the season...nor does it fit your above comment. In my opinion that is our best line-up we could field this year with whats on the roster...why they havn't given this set-up a chance blows my mind

Relying on the best running back in the game.. regardless of age is a silly argument....we do rely on going to the well once too often...mote like constantly and now teams scheme to limit the success....and that's where Lapo has to pull his head out of his arse and adjust and actually use that scheme of his to set up different wrinkles. We also have to like I said in another post layer our routes better and bring everything away from inside the hash marks...within 10-12 yards of the LOS....It's to congested and relying on missed tackles..breaking tackles or wasting receiving options soley for blocking is killing any mediulm to medium deep gains we should be getting. Lokk at Calgary..Edm..even Ottawa..they layer it out and pull defenders apart so receivers get the ball with one guy on them...and if they hit the play right the receiver has major room to scamper and gain big yards...when is the last time you saw that with our offence?...yeah thats right...pretty much never....and thats why inserting Flanders at this point doesn't help the issue...it would compound it. We need a big stud like we have on the PR (washington) to come in and be that guy for us...and if he bombs...cut bait and get someone who can....and saying earlier this month that we had no interest in bringing back Mathews (not sure if he looking at that yet) a proven guy who could really help us deserves a kick to the nads of management as well....they need to lose the mindset that once season starts and whoever makes the cut and PR is who we run with all year....scrap that idea...a roster should always be evolving and that has hindered us the last few years...impact guys come available and we declare we are happy with our roster and see no need to bring in most likely better players....just plain dumb and wherever that mindset is originating...well Miller better find it and knock it out of them

Well other than that yeah I agree...I forgot to mention that part..I think that was a frustration thing..aberration you can say.. this has been the most disciplined team all year..it wont have done a 180 like that overnight..I think that's the least of the worries. Fogg yeah had a bad game too..but not knowing the protections on some of the plays..hard to determine the breakdowns tho on 2 plays he got roasted nicely.

It looks like they have Loffler playing a non traditional role as a safety..why..not sure.. and is he capable of doing it?..not sure again as I don't know what his responsibilities are supposed to be. Sayles just needs to learn the game..league.. and players.. so he is getting abused bad cause of it..and with a defensive backfield.. if one guy is suffering it really hurts the overall unit as guys overcompensate..and also it just allows too much room in the weak spot. 2 back sets are fine..but we need to pull defenders out of the box and show verticle threat and more layered routes.. we send a token guy deep(ish) and rest are all in the short dump and immediate second level area..and most times usually within the hashes..congests everything and limits a lot of big play stuff as too many defenders in area.. What edm or Calgary how they spread it..and have guys get huge yac up the middle or with crossing patterns..they get the ball and 9 times out of ten have just the man on him to beat.. and if they do open field.. but us..guy makes a catch and within 5-6 yards are multiple defenders to contend with..look back at games and see how many times we have had guys catch in stride with room to romp..I can think of maybe twice? Our Offensive scheme is good if u have some variation and layers to it..but we dont..and teams now see it and will adapt and stifle it

Better not..that ship had better have sailed now...we confirmed last game what he gives us..and it's not much..who gives a flying frick how good a teammate he is and tries hard in practice and gives out water on sideline when on PR...that ain't winning u games