Booch

oh I know....was just saying....bunch of knumbskulls

agreed.....they didnt have a ratio reduction in the first tentative agreement, and now they basically seem to be getting one, and the CFL is standing hard on it...and don't blame them either....u cant reject something, and ask for more, or something different and not expect to have to give something back.....I dont blame th CFLPA bargaining committee...I balme it on either a) a total lack of communication or b) a cancerous core of players who felt slighted and orchestrated a "no" vote.....and I lean toward more of option B just from experience and what I know....Simoni Lawrence is a yapper and generally a mouthpiece and overall doucher....but there is a lot of merit to what he tweeted...whether people in media and on teams refute it....maybe they can suck up their pride a re-vote on the original...as it was the best they were gonna get

pretty tough to come back after 3 yrs...pretty much 2 yrs with no real training from injuries when guys now are ready to go 24/7 365 days a yr.....he may have been having a good camp, but others are having great camps...younger...massive upside and cheaper....it's more and more a young man's a the new breeds game...speaking of which any word on how Harris is doing in T.O....not from media, but maybe from someone who has some eyes out there? I like our roster talent brought in to compete at WR and if we had to send some walking to keep Saunders I would have considered that a fail...I couldnt see him being the 2017/18 version

people are looking at it the wrong way....they could play those snaps....not they have to, nor are obligated too...the option is there and it helps a team especially with in game injury....a true canadian starter will not see his earning power reduced, as you cant predict game snaps into the future..that argument is just ludicrous Also, coaches like Oshea....christ I'd be shocked if he even gave his Canadian starters even 25% less snaps...let alone 49...why would he...up until last yr we had Canadian starters who were better than their American counter parts on other teams....fact of the matter...if you are good enough...you will play...if you are not....you wont make the squad..Canadian..American...martian...earn your keep...keep nose to the grindstone and play ball....if u slack at your joe fan job...suck at it...or are a detriment to your company or organization....u get replaced too

many americans come from a wayyyyy worse upbringing....and also...put tons of time in up here in charitable activities...schools....coaching in the city....many move here...so whats the point...any player who comes from disfucntion...bad up bringing....poverty and crime riddled environment should be aplauded....if u look back in history the CFL has actually given just as many...if not more Americans the chance to succeed and have a great story, where nowhere else would have...especially the minority player, and the under sized..under valued....does that not matter or count either?

so...u just called the CFL an amatuer league,...I am sure the players (canadian and U.S) would love to hear that....Canadian rules and fsize of field is whats the difference and uniqueness not the ratio...the ratio is just a roster requirement..

whats CHL....junior?....not same thing...thats amatuer sports key words....also some of those leagues mentioned are not the "big" leagues....I'm talking major league type teams sports...NHL...NBA...NFL...MLB...and yeah the CFL as it's more major league than anything else mentioned even tho on a smaller scale....junior hockey...and these random European and Japanese leaues...whatever leagues are for players who have basically no hope in hell of making a professional league aforementioned...hence why they were created.....moot point tho really cause its never gonna appease everyone...there are peopke on both sides of fence and bickering about it is a never ending circle jerk...round and round we go...so may as well get back to the matters...that matter..Like the Riders sucking agree,,,only players who played or were PR last yr should be voting...100% and yeah....jobs arent being axed...it's almost like people aren't even reading it correctly...including many players obviously

point i making is people pay good money to watch the best players perform....regardless of BC....and I didnt see the government coming to the CFL aide in pandemic...to "benefit" cnadians and jobs lost, revenues negated....etc..etc...but were quick to throw around tax payer money to other countries for things that had zero effect on Canada...so that argument is kind of pointless too then...I realize there are many here who are staunch gotta be canadian be damned players..ratio..whatever....and thats fine....

i didnt mean its apples' to apples....but the fact less and less canadians make up majority of player base doesnt effect grass roots hockey...and grass roots football suffered/suffers because nobody took the horns to create it like hockey in Canada...its not affected by the CFL...Ratio doesnt make it unique...just a mechanism to allow Canadians a better chance to play...sure its unique as it's the only pro sports league in the world that excludes players....,but it doesnt necessarily make the game better....they talk about inclusion...yadda yadda yadda...well...be 100 percent inclusive

last I looked the NFL game is completely different than the CFL game...The part that makes the CFL unique is the rules...the field, and the fact it's all Canadian teams.....is the NFL now unique because they employ the best of the best Canadian players....I think not

Grass roots hockey does just fine and there is no stipulating you need X amount of Canadians....If the Jets had no Canadians...would fans stop watching...doubt it....If CFL went to an all Canadian player base...they would lose more fans than they would if they went to an all American Player base...the game would become not worth the price you have to pay to go see it, and the gap between elite layer and slug would be laughable every where i read they added an extra Canadian but its the 3/5 yr american on top of the usual 7 Canadians...correct me if I am wrong but thats what Ive been seeing

Willie was basically a victim of off field issues....not skill/size/etc...and spin what u want...but i know for a FACT many guys who would have been generational stars up here didnt come soley because the ratio, and didnt want to risk injury in a situation where they most likely had to beat out an established vet...in his prime, or be cut when a Canadian with no real reason to be on a pro field took the position...u can disagree and argue till the cows come home, but this has been the case for decades...even today, there are a lot of Canadians with no business being on a pro football roster, but soley are as they protected by BC...Does this make the CFL great?...in my opinion no....great for Canadian players I guess...but not great for over all game...and BTW...I am a Canadian player....

if I read it correct...didnt technically the amount of canadians to be starters went up from 7..to 8...the 8th being a naturalized American?...but 3 others can replace true Canadians if a team chooses....key word here...up to 49% of snaps....so.....earn yer Canadian birthright paycheque and make the decision to "replace" you for some snaps a moot point...also, if you are a true team player you will accommodate rotation and situational snaps to allow your team to be more successful just as players do now... do u hear guys like Jeffcoat and Jefferson, and similar players on other teams crying about snap count???...Those players who voted it down...still have 7 starting jobs...just like before....you dont lose money having snap count reduced, and you still need "true" canadian back-ups to cover injury...etc...so if this CBA allows for better roster flexibility and in the end...improved quality of game and entertainment value....then suck it up butter cup...If I was the CFL I'd say...okay...we will switch that, but you give up a) revenue share or b) cap increases.....gotta give to get....people making it seem like Canadian jobs are going away...which isnt the case....snap counts may be reduced....but deal with it...perform and you wont need to worry about it

and the fact that employee kept coming for more....even after being bitchslapped....u reep what u sow...Langley in my opinion isnt the bad guy here, and hope that doesnt ruin his chance to try out

Not too worried about dynamics on this squad to be honest

Soley at the feet of the Canadians...u still have your gauranteed 7 starting spots...you don't want your reps cut down...prove your worth and stop crying. Canadians have been beneficiary of all previous agreements and paid in many instances well beyond what they should...and many a u.s player shown the road due to being ousted by a far inferior Canadian ..sure it's the CFL but quality shouldn't be compromised by nationality...I can tell you first hand many a great player had opted to not even come here as he has had guys in his ear telling him to not waste his time cause he gonna be cut for a Canadian player who in some cases woukd be hard pressed to start on a top notch JUCO team..this is facts You still will require Canadian backups above and beyond the actual starting 7...not just naturalized Americans...suck it up..prove your worth..if it's mainly the Canadians balking at the 49% thing..and having American league stars who stick in league and with same team being somewhat rewarded for it...guys who put butts in seats and have their merchsndise fly off shelves..they can eat a bag...

Stan the man with a plan

My brother works as a rspirstory therapist...as well as used to be a Paramedic in Edmonton....first hand communication from him is Edm is a shithole...riddled way worse with crime...thugs...and homeless, and general filth...he says way worse than Winnipeg...worst apparently in Canada for what the emergency/healthcare system has to deal with...Saskatoon running up there as well with the leaders...and yes...said commonwealth is in the shitsville

well...I lived in Winnipeg....T.O...San Fran....and Columbia MO.....and a coupe othe random points in between...could have continued there, or took up opportunity there, and well...where am I since 2003?....there a reason.....and every city has it's dumpy area, or negative attributes....But other than sheer size...I've found Winnipeg to have just as much or more than most in terms of things going on...and culture and what accompanies it....Lawler....I appreciate what he did here, but something was a bit off with him in some ways...and the fact he seems to take his subtle shots about certain things, and has really given no appreciation toward team/city or acknowledged "team" more than "him" is telling...truth be told...he won't be missed and we prob be a better over all group without him Adams is the one that will be missed and is leaving a void...and I hated to see him leave, but we gonna be just fine

good report...is there camp tomorrow?...may have to whip by myself...need a live football fix

He's just a straight up knob

Yup clements wasn't flashy...didn't have one big exceptional skill...or crazy skillet for that matter...but was smart..couls extend plays and improvise on the fly...could lead and was a winner...sounds a lot like someone else

Unknowns at qb...prob a porous line..good on u Kenny getting bank but 10 bucks says Elingson outproduces and goes deeeeep into playoffs...banking a lil extra ching ching

What's crazy is how this teams management and the way they manage roster..and prep for future is top notch...we've developed..replace and retooled through as goosen and chungh loss....Desjarlais..and Eli and just reload and don't miss a beat...crazy...other teams if they aren't envious are just oblivious then on how to manage a roster

if he does surpass Gray this yr...fairly big if...Gray as the 6th is crazy good depth...we set along o-line for sure now...