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did I not say multiple times this yr our secondary is bad for most part...chalk full of undersized whimps who cant tackle...cant lay the boom....just a bunch of pansies really...excluding Griffin and Williams...and last night was a prime example of it...if you go back and look at all games this year...and last...you see a whole lotta what we saw...and the fact Osh doesnt hold anyone accountable...or even yank a repeated offender for that is just an indication he's not this god many make him out to be...he's clueless...gutless...plumless...or just stupid....I think a swell combo of all of them...He excels at looking smug and getting worked up tho when challenged about it That opening drive of the second half was about as pathetic and embarrasing of a play I have ever seen...Obviously zero was said, and nobody was read the riot act to sharpen up or take a place on the bench cause that shouldnt have happened...unless we have a group of dumbasses playing in the secondary....or ones severley lacking in skill...take your pick...but after that a real coach woulda yanked a few immediately...Murphy would of 100 percent and likely cut one...or 2 or sent to PR right after game...Coach Richie as well would have sat at least one guy....but he would have had some strong words and on the sidelines and tore a strip off them about it, I can say that with 100 percent belief...seen it first hand...and likely the culprits woulda got the message...Osh...ho hum...look at me sheet...squint and look up at the replay...write don on his sheet "review that in film and fix"...when it is about as obvious as a wart on your junk what happened right there and now....just an utter fool Hate to harp on stuff and be so critical..but cmon man...is stuff we hashed over here now for several seasons...was some the red flags I saw from day 1 of camp...and tendancies we have seen adnuasim for yrs now...not new stuff I just drum up as I have a hate on for this coach...that coach...a certain player...Its jut reality...hate to again say "I told you so"...but getting close...and stand on my hill we should have let osh walk this winter...He's our nemessis

Like CGY last yr...basically revamped the whole defensive unit...and ran a basic 4 set defence and just did minor things of that for the most part in first half of of the season I bolded part of your comment as in reference to that...I seriously doubt we have a good coach...let alone several right now....One other point I forgot...we added a DA DB...One with physical tools to actually maybe do something in this useless scheme and constant rotation we run. And on a few 2nd and longish...we subbed out a DL guy or LB...and instead of actually using/trying him...we run out Ball to play basically whatKramdi or Kelly did....when we didnt need to...like wtf?!?!...why even dresss the guy...and before anyone chirps I could care less about that UR penalty on the kick return...lesson learned but at least he hustled as he trackced the ball carrier good and sifted thru the sea of bodies to run him outta bounds...and really he hardly hammered the guy...at least he showed hustle Same with our interior rotation...why do we feel the need to minimize Ceresna's snaps for a couple of slugs...Schmeck made a good play but thats his bread and butter and situationally where we need him...not as a snap eating DT...he just not that kind of layer...Korn just isnt even a pro level player

Or coaching to be honest Not sure how it sounded..looked on TV.. I havmt done my do over yet..but that was the most intense..loud..angry booing innthe stadium that I have heard..or been a part of...ever..not a happy fannase and rightfully so..

Truth

Zc would have been carted off. We ran so much with the rb out wide took any threat of run away...eliminated an outlet/dumpoff if nothing was there..and basically zero layers to our routes..nothing to clear space out..basically created something that was simple to blanket coverage..so basically he had to throw into coverage..or throw before anything developed...or get clobbered Plus we have no guys who are gonna win many contested battles..or actually seem to know how to make a play on a ball or when and how to come back so the db doesn't have an easy time breaking it up..or actually making a play on the ball...none out guys attack the ball..they just waiting for it to hit their hands..

We seem to have no issues shuttling 3 or 4 guys in every snap..tho thats also the reason why ours sucks lol

Not much good about this..right outta the shoot exactly what I said earlier happened...Holms exposed early and often on his lack of physicality and poor tackling..it wasn't just a bad game..its fact..further exemplified also with that first play of second half td..he was the 4th guy to whiff as 3 others did before it got to him...and leads to my comments our secondary/backend save for Griffin and Woodbey are a bunch of undersized pusssies and would have a hard time corraling some JUCO wr groups I work with in SoCal..just pathetic and embarrassing...and you have Smuggshea with zero accountability in any of it..or holding anyone accountable..just keep it as is..if for anything I would..or any hc who has any control over anything should have put in Vaval snd Jackson next series for any 2 of the useless turds..take your pick to send a message..but he is a gutless coach and won't.. same with some of his typical in-game decisions...just weak and sad...should have never reupped him as his time is done and his roster managemt and who choose to keep is just like I said it would be...again Sure Dru made some bad throws...but made them to a collective group of bad recievers..much like our dbs..soft..weak..none in the mold to win any battle..or stretch a field..won't battle for any ball...i feel for our qbs..no layered routes..no dynamic guy...and waste your rb with endless reps out wide..totally taking him out of things and being no threat whatsoever..he probably thinking..wtf did I resign here. Our coaching is atrocious and killing us...maybe stop taking extra days off of practice and use your full amount required..maybe the tackling could become a thing...or look prepared...maybe some physical practices would help recievers learn how to win a battle We pay Ceresna big bucks...well let him play 80 percent of snaps..too much rotation..I was watching.. every play there were anywhere from 2 to 4 guys running in and out..CGY..a guy here..a guy there..many times nobody..but when they did was essentially from a down and distance type thing..not us tho..and people wonder why our defence looks like half the time they dont know wtf is going on Props to vaval...wj..griffin..gatkouth...Reese.. kyrie was good..Smith...BO..Demski..ceresna when he got reps..Williams for most part...and yes Dru..but man we carrying a load of garbage...and our coaching is garbage too for the most part..can't wait for smuggies comments in media...ill say it again...hes just a clueless idiot..and I dont think he has an answer..and 3 yrs of this still?? We need some serious roster turnover and we best be getting on it..but I have no faith we will cause osh is a clown..shows it more and more as the seasons go by...he built this mess..its on him Also...I have yet to see this shittkicking machine we traded up for and continue to waste a spot on..that one's on you Kyle Id be on the horn with Allen agent tonight...begging Rhymes to get up here to add some size and nasty attitude to our WR group and a guy u know will battle for a ball..cause man o man we need it and thats probably only guy barring a trade who coukd immediately help..and nobody is gonna trade us one their big bodies We need a lot of work..especially on the coaching side of things

yeah...he was trumpeted as a big signing....and sure rightfully so based on body.of work but so far has been a bust for most part....could have got the same with a rookie with a way higher ceiling But as it goes here...we all knew....and saw thru camp he basically was handed the job regardless and there was no real competition. There was zero chance he wasnt starting...and even tho some new blood outplayed him....here he is To me Lamont looked better...heck he looked better than most...guess he wasnt "Vet" enough for Osh or came with same fanfare

he has had good coaching around him since he left...and a better environment of team players and not show boating assbags like were there when he was Plus...like any player...if you have the skills and athletic ability...and you get the chance to actually play...well, you k=just never know what you have... He still comes across tho as a shmuck and a whiner and has that face you just wanna kick...some things you just cant change

Cline likely is the first and a for sure guy we see this yr...and agree on Schoen and whatever Walter's said was just his pure un-informed (at the time speculation) I know he is fully training now, and late season would be 16 months removed...which is generally where we should have slotted him in last yr and we wouldnt be in this spot we are in now...but poor recruitment and our penchant for playing guys hurt...well we know how that panned out...with 2 guys ACL injuries are not like they used to be...even multiple ones...and re-injury one isnt a cumulative thing where each time you come back as a lesser and lesser player Generally you can come back and be close to what you were 12 months removed, but its that second yr back where you get back to where you were..or better...and when I say better physically all around as the training and rehab and the rest the body gets...guys usually come back as a better athlete If he is cleared in Aug/Sept...we be dumb not to bring him back...ease hi in and then in 2027 you have a WR who only 31 with some prime yrs ahead of him...No Brainer in my book

after he just praised the Elks secondary as having the most take aways and being the best....doucher

Thats the thing...right now no real spot for him but we own his rights...could be a nice trade bait for something tho I'd like us to actually use Perkins as a number 2 guy in some games as well....Not just default it to TE who needs a lot of seasoning....Perkins I bet if used in the right way would be quite effective....it's not like he is a raw rookie

Id put either Eli..Vibert or Wallace at center..they all been taking reps there...one I am sure would be more than adequate..Elsbury's game doesnt justify his eating an import spot...We were saddled with Kolo for 4 yrs...surely we can withstand another with one of the Nationals we have..and hey..who knows actually playing one may develop them too...everyone has to start somewhere...we rolled with an unproven rookie this yr...and really he has yet to prove anything...seasons still youngish...we can still figure it out Easy fix tho if we went 4 imports....just start Lawson/Whoever as back up...Smith, and a Canadian safety....we usually run more canadian at any fiven snap anyway that we need to...so declare your ratio accordingly

if he wants to continue playing football...I do...That was likely his one stab at the NFL....Unless he makes his way here and shows something...but even that will be a stretch here at moment

I would....and I'd move Bryant to left guard. He has it in his head now, or just knows he needs to kick out a bit quicker than before...You can see it and it basically neutralizes part of his game he excels at....Hand skills He now mainly on mostly pass pro ..not all but some, put him self at a disadvantage where he is not properly set in his base and ends up either having to reach and or over extend to engage and gets him off balance and a quicker guy...or a technically sound one can beat him wide, or get him lunging outside and inside they go...Hence why he has been dinged with a few holdings already. Thats the issue...He is fine in run plays and certain passing schemes. It's weird cause he didnt look that way in camp, and still is technically sound and has the great hands...seen it in camp...so not sure if in a game he was getting beat off snap and now it's in his head Slide him into guard and that will go away. He can just pop out of stance and engage more effectively, and we use him off center in qb sneaks as it anywy...and a vet like him would easily adjust anyway

and if I take his job...I take his job...said like Drago...If he dies...he dies lol

That's why every opportunity you have to get the back up reps...you give it to him..or should...be it a blow out of your team...or you blowing a team out...random series here and there as a change of pace....Yanking the starter if he sucks...even fora series or 2 just so he can see things from a diff angle on the sidelines...trust me that can actually be all he needs...neglecting to do so...well gets teams in the situ they are in...unproven backup...or backup who will suffer soley because he never gets real reps...Practice doesnt develop anyone...

Yes...yes...and yes...fools i say haha Tenure shouldn't equate reps...only here I prefer him there over anywhere...and also Kramdi..even tho many here think hes legit as a top tier starter...again if this configuration starts to really click..and dixon and woodbey get added to really tighten up the defence..where does kramdi fit? Situational rep guy and depth?

Really hamstrings you if you adhere to it no matter what Parts true...Osh also will input as to what he will wanna run at times too...and with whom.. hence why he is buried in his call sheet and at times oblivious as to whats going on Between u..me and any random tree the both of them need to be better

Nobody knows what consensus is...I also have heard the love what he can do as that 6th..and we have nobody who can replicate so thats where they want him..plus he can back up multiple spots..so there is that too I've been around football long enough..both sides of border to know at the end of the day its the HC call...and also know not to put too much into what is said in the media..or the democracy type atmosphere that will be purported as well...but whatever the real deal is..we have seen more than enough dumb roster moves..with many different coords and some insanely stupid in game decisons with one common denominator to pretty much determine the main culprit as to the stupidity for most part

Id sign him...slot him right into Rt..shift Broxton and either reserve roster Stan...or try him at guard amd swap out Elsbury for either Eli or Vibert..and if that doesn't shore things up reconfig the interior till it does..lotsa time still to make it work Wallace has taken snaps at center too no? Maybe thats his calling..

He's never impressed me...Stuart has tho..and has higher upside..shoulda left that as it was..

Pretty much...And moving him up to help in run isnt his best use..he just not physical enough and for all.his good traits he is weak at tackling and rarely can bring a guy down immediately He should be used kinda like how we used Bolden..no real position per say..just moved around and coverd a teams best guy 1 on 1..and schemed the rest around that. Considering we are adding extra db types constantly it would almost mimic what we did using a true.3-4 with 4 legit playmaker lbs..hes no Bolden but as a pure cover guy he'd be pretty good...especially with over the top help

I think if Jackson was brought on..and the position he plays..the smart bet is he would be the guy coming in..skill wise and physically..he fits that role perfectly being a bigger body...but this is osh we talking about..he could stand on sideline all game and not see a snap..defensively or special teams ...just like Hazen 2 weeks back

No reason to bring Hallett on the field...We have 6 Canadians on offence so only need 1 on defense...if thats how we set the ratio...So just Kelly alone on every snap is all we need. But Smith rotating in will not hurt us and in certain down and distance where its more than 5 yards...swapping him in for Jones or Wilson and even taking out Kelly and putting Jackson at safety would make our defense more than good. @DTonOB can you clarify/confirm for us what our ratio requirements are for offence/defence as it doesnt actually say on any depth chart I think Griffin has been our most reliable guy not playing on the dline...All around he possess the best game of anyone....Fast....Physical...can cover 1 on 1...can actually tackle and doesnt dive at shins...He's been our best guy all 6 games...Holm has been steady as Holm is...but has his weak spots and still think he be best served for us as a safety I will bet anyone we wont miss Kramdi at all this game...and I bet we may even see one of our better defensive performances to date...Especially if we use the roster right and dont exclude Smith and Jackson from quality reps