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he's had 2 reconstructive surgeries...again...One from a blatant cheap shot intent to take him out....the other a non contact....hence the minimal games....sure he was hurt. but not like he was getting hurt every other game ZC was and prob is more glass than anyone....and the last couple yrs he been getting smacked around a bit...and his performance has shown And to be honest I'd take MBT over both of them right now to actually be my starter for 2025...With a running game like we have....and if we have our full compliment of receivers....I bet he's lead the league in passing

Masoli got the utter cheap shot to take him out initially....then a fluke bad luck injury.....as a number 2 to hold you over if your starter goes down for a few games...surrounded with a good cast will win you more than you lose....and you keep developing Wilson as the Jumbo package guy, and if smart give him other plays/packages to run throughout the yr to further bring him along

he asks me hahahaa

Kinda where we been with ZC too tho....been lucky especially in the first 2 yrs that he didnt get rocked as he prob been finished...he's a had a few pretty insignificant ones the last couple yrs that seemed to really mess him up where another QB prob just shrugged t off....since he got hurt in dm he hasnt been anywhere near the same he was from 2019 to late 2022 yup...like i mentioned in a previous post...some this FIFO crap and adding guys to fit what HC/Management wanna see has hindered us as much as benefitted. If you have a strong locke room and by all accounts we do...with enough true leaders and guys who are respected....any guy brought in will fall in line, be it the room and vets pointing him the right way and they actually see the benefits of the right aattidue....or they will be gone...we need more nasty...edgy and guys who play at the edge but know enough to rarely step over....thats where we lacking...to many nice gys and too many guys too comfortable.....Like they say...Nice guys finish last.....and in our case Nice guys cant finish the deal....as the true translation of it is People who are decent, friendly, and agreeable tend to be unsuccessful because they are outmaneuvered or overwhelmed by others who are not so decent Pretty much us in a nutshell of late in last 3 cup losses

I can see it if you are in a good spot...actually on a PR....With work in practice as prep tp possible playing...but bouncing from work out...to workout....for the hope of maybe getting a week or 5 on a PR...all the while not getting paid....whats the point? YOu get paid if you on a PR for that week leading up to game day.....there is no compensation going to work outs and waiting for that "call" Kyrie would be the ideal DA guy ala what Cole....Ayers were Thomas....whats the point?...He has no upside...only more degradation....eats up valuable SMS resources...well above the league minimum and even with limited reps...are just wasted reps.....Blocks developing a younger guy...Samson...or a new draft pick....With Lawson back he more than covers a National DT to be used in rotation....Guy will actually be impactful. he was impactful and if it's not an actual ratio requirement a below adequate back-up usnt required and that National roster spot would be better served with a national receiver/db/hybrid LB type to strengthen overall roster depth....better yet a National punter so we can pooch Punter guy and use that spot on Karamoko or Ogbveon....or if we rustke up a decent global interior dlineman...they are out there...but sadly Osh is gonna Osh and likely we hear Thomas and Bighill re-ups before Jan....which is nauseating to even consider yup...as a depth/package specific guy he would be ideal...and a good back-up as we integrate his replacement....and he definitely does get everyone in the right spots on defence....Would/will make an excellent coach too, so to start that transition there as well would be a smart move safety....SAM...hybrid jack/edge guy....any of the 3

It's almost as bad if not worse a meat grinder than the NFL with little regard for anyone...other than $$ Seen a lot of bad stuff...unethical.....at the expense of the athlete yup....I would change a few things...and a lot is changing with the training now and post education prep...thankfully

you just shut it....for the love of god....hahahah

how I look at it is that this crap he spews about they all here cause they are starter caliber...and because they give us a chance to win ...they here in the building for a reason.....is something he doesnt even believe in himself....as he shows he rarely lets a guy get a chance to play unless someone has had a limb fall off....ZC finger almost fell off....but just wasn't enough So if he doesn't even believe it...why should fans?? exactly this....when guys are given the chance to play they can do great things....goes for the second and third stringers too...no?....and if they have no faith in them doing something great...why they on the roster??....Contradicts his previous statements that they all here cause they give us a chance to win...so why wont you play the healthy guys over an injured..... argos also let their best players play....and will yank a gy for sucking...even if it rufffles said guy's sucking feathers...as we have seen with some squabbling on their sidelines...that being said....it has allowed them to win the 2 cups theyhave been in recently.....maybe after being taught 2 straight lessons from them, maybe we took some notes???

gee....when you look at it like that...and that high turnover ratio to the good....you would think that yeah they would have been like 12 and 6...or better....losers

any dlineman not named Schmeckle/Thomas for one....and really...Kramdi played well...but is more effective in the box...not so much in open space or in coverage...could easily have used Griffin...Cole there fulltime and had Kramdi as a super sub....rotating freely as we had Ford at corner.

thing is...you can start 2 other guys who are better than the Canadians...and if you cant find any...theres a big problem in your scouting and recruiting

we had to at DB and for a certain extent receiver.....but Dline...LB....We just ignore the fact we are weak and sub par because Osh has his fav's....his perception the guys are top rate.....and thats that.....until his mind set changes somewhat...it will be yr after yr of 2..3 questionable guys rostered....excessive use of additional Cdn's even when not needed and not the best option and long in the tooth vets...who server next to no purpose anymore other than blocking/developing new blood....just something we gonna have to deal with as long as he is here....sure we had success in 2 cup wins....put together a couple of all-time great reg. season records....but that was when the top line talent was still top line and best in the league...3....yrs ago now....we don't have that anymore and didn't properly re-stock the cupboard....and in the instances where we added a body or two it was out of necessity (season ending injury/guys leaving) not because we chose to go with the younger...better guy with upside. Flame away about my take on it all you want...some of you will as history has shown but we have not managed our roster nor put any forward thinking/progression plan in place for the most part....Hopefully last yr was the start of it and it continues this winter with not re-signing some guys...and going after some legit free-agent guys...even if they have an edge and are a bit nasty....the culture in the room will take care of itself and guys will fall in line....we dont need 46 choir boys

sometimes we value certain things way too much over actual talent and ability.....can't be denied....and should be nipped in the bud now after 3 consecutive yrs of failing....

Wonder if he gonna waste another yr in 2025 like he did in 2023...waiting...not earning a penny...if he doesn't make a roster out of camp He gonna be 27 going into next season..would project as a project at best most likely...can't see a team investing much time or money into him especially when there are tons of guys just like him churned out of NCAA ball...younger...and have played u.s ball since 5 yrs old.

And how did they do?

I think we had looked at him and was on our radar but he was their neg list....so we just watched and waited bOLD....but bad move in my opinion...just keeps them further behind in the transition....but looks good on them...Keep it up Oday!

for sure...seeing value and upside in guys where other teams didn't is also key....you have to remember some teams have eyes on guys that are on other teams heg list....or were signed before they got the chance...so when they get cut lose.....they get brought in If you are not scouting the other teams and watching their moves for the chance to steal a guy...you not doing your job

sign him up....I bet he would be a good mentor to Wilson too....He's more the type of QB Wilson is as to what Buck was....so that wouldn't hurt either. And I bet he be good for Strev too.

Nope..this is true...but you can throw out some aging vets...and lack luster others who have been there for the 3 straight losses, as obviously they aren't getting it done... for new...fresh....inspired blood....because the intelligent person can't think that in attempt number 4...being one yr older...1 more step slower...some guys probably 2....and one more additional yr removed from being productive that this time they gonna do it........that's something you can do to the bath water. You can also maybe change how you fill that tub too,,,schematic and philosophy wise a bit ....evolve some would call it....thats what you can do.....and it's easy to do it if you flip your mindset a bit....and coming from being there before...an older player knowing that a younger...and many times more athletic player is on your ass...and can take your job at any moment brings out a lil more fire and squeezes out the last couple drops of juice outta that guy....which also is a net positive.....can't coast and feel safe that you are a lock....just because....too many instances of guys the last 3 yrs being too comfortable and not having that extra something something....

We need another prime Kyrie and from first looks at Ayer's he looks like he can be that guy but brings more a whallop

at very worst he is the perfect DA linebacker who can fill in at 2 spots...plays teams.....He has shown he is a capable starter...with some limitations but would kill it as a situational down backer

I'd be all for Jackson to be honest...He would know how to use the pieces we have....and I bet he could bring Leke with him as I sure Leake loved how he was used...He would solve several issues for us...returner...reciever...change of pace backfield guy

we definitely did add some good pieces....it's more the fact that when they were in the lineup they took a back seat to a couple far inferior guys. I think with Lawson back...WJ re-upped...Garbutt....and the best of Haba/Person...I think it will be Person ....and progression from Fox/Woods/Adams right there alone we have the makings for a super athletic/active front....Allow Samson....a new draft pick and Schmeck to battle it out for the rotational Cdn D-line guy....no need at all for Thomas to even be considered...let alone eating up over 100k of SMS I as well welcome and like a good discussion/differing of opinions and listening to others view points.....Nothing personal and we all want same end result....I think

I not rticising the whole thing...but an aspect of things...and they are not unwarranted at that....we should arguably have won 4 of those 5 easily....and why we didnt....totally avoidable....and until we shift in how we do things...and shuffle the deck a bit in some instances....much of the same will likely be the result....if you...or anyone is happy with the post seson failures because we had a good regular season....so be it...I am not Would you have rather made it to 3 cups in 5 yrs....and won em all....as opposed to be batting under .500 in 5..??...and basically cause we shot ourselves in the foot....with basically the same stupid reasons in 3 of the losses?.... 2 grey cup losses tho the defence got walked over too when the rubber had to meet the road....so it's not just offence issues....Last yr was offense issues fielding 3/5ths OF a receiving corp that had no business or use playing....Thats on Coaching 2022 ZC was allowed to start...and play whole game when he was obviously hurt....couldnt move in pocket or plant properly to throw...rendering our passing attack useless....and he was never pulled...again....coaching ....which leads right to this yr....down by a TD...QB again was rendered useless by injury....but out he trots.....hate to say it again...thats on coaching....We lost 3 straight now for basically a combination of the same reasons...You would think now rolling into 2025 with a chance to play for a Cup at home....you would sit down and revisit the last 5 yrs...look at everything...top to bottom...the whats..why's...what we could have done different...what we SHOULD have done different....and turn the page and make the necessary tweaks. The off-season is just starting so hard to say what our gameplan is going to be...we do know there will be a new or different scouting/recruitment set-up....we are going to have a new OC as well.....and I see 2 guys nobody expected to see us lose walk....so how the rest shapes up will be very telling and possibly exciting But if we see a within hire for OC....no new player personnel guy brought in and re-upping of guys like Thomas....Biggie.....Wilson.... and Osh pumping their tires in the media about it.....nothing is changing for the better and it's just status quo....if there was/is a yr to make a fairly significant shift....this is the yr

I would hope we did....in football life 2019 to 2024 is eons ago More needs to happen too...we turned over some spots not by choice tho, was forced on us luckily as we know if the injuries didn't happen....we wouldn't have. I disagree on the favoring vets part tho....Osh has a tendency to overly lean on them...and not just in favor of a raw rookie. Got by with it when we had a roster full of guys in the prime.....hasnt panned out so well when we havnt....and dont even wanna hear the "yeah but...our reg. season record crap"...pointless and means diddly....the goal is a championship....not win the west and flop in post season...ask any player worth spit and they will tell you the same A psotion shouldn't earned in advance or based on previous dominance....once it even starts to fade the successor should already be in house and working into reps....we dont do that here case in point...dline....how many yrs now have we not solidified it.....since 2021 it's been a weak spot....as we just stayed with a couple guys who for lack of a better statement are just not good enough to play pro ball with regular snaps....if any