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'Pathetic clown': Chinese state-backed media attacks Canada after Meng Wanzhou verdict
I thought they were referring to JT when I saw the headline.
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14 hours ago, 17to85 said:
No death is insignificant. And how do you magically protect the vulnerable when everyone is a carrier?
We have essentially drilled down to the core of who you are... you don't value the lives of your fellow human beings.
Congratulations.
It's the Swedish approach and it makes the most sense whether you agree with it or not, soon they will have herd immunity and everyone will be safe.
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Michael Moore is on board, there is no place for censorship in a Democratic society,
QuoteEXCLUSIVE, updated with new details, 11:42 AM: Michael Moore and Jeff Gibbs’ controversial documentary Planet of the Humans has been removed from YouTube, where it was streaming for free — a move the pair calls a “blatant act of censorship.”
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Wow just sad, welcome to the age of censorship,
QuoteEXCLUSIVE, updated with new details, 11:42 AM: Michael Moore and Jeff Gibbs’ controversial documentary Planet of the Humans has been removed from YouTube, where it was streaming for free — a move the pair calls a “blatant act of censorship.”
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15 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:
Dude, 3% increase year-over-year barely covers inflation... Trump's impact on the economy has been positive
That's more than they were getting before Trump, you'd have to go back 3 presidents to see those kind of numbers, no wonder the typical worker was fed up.
17 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:the stock market boomed when he got elected not because of investor confidence in his abilities to steer the American economy, but because most investors knew corporate tax cuts were part of his platform, they knew large American corporations would pay even less corporate tax than they previously were before he was elected.
No tax cut, no stimulus, no market boom, you can't have one without the other. Investors wanted return and they got them.
18 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:On top of all that, arguably the most archaic issue in the states - a lack of a national healthcare system - continues to dog the average, everyday wage earner, and remains completely unaddressed. Although median wages have increased, so has the number of Americans with absolutely no health insurance at all.
The health care industry is driving the economy down there, 3 million new jobs. Universal Health Care is not sustainable as we are going to find out here very soon. Besides, wouldn't it make more sense for the rich to go get there own private care, they can afford it after all and wouldn't that free up more resources for the lower income family's who really need it? **** the rich, make them pay for their own health care.
22 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:Although less individuals are using social welfare programs (like food stamps)
Don't even try to turn this into a negative.
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The left starting to eat their own,
in all honesty though, Dana Bash should be ashamed of herself for this quality of work.
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27 minutes ago, do or die said:
People forget that Obama inherited the financial crisis and had to pay for 2 Iraq wars and still left a stable economic platform
Yes he did, no one disputes that, but he also benefited from the 2008 recovery, there was no place to go but up, and even after 8 years he couldn't get unemployment down to where Trump did, over a full percent half a million jobs or so
Now let's look at Trumps, and not the obvious numbers, some things you never hear about but are key to it's success:
1. Higher wages, yes if you can believe it, higher wages for the typical American worker, growing at over 3%/year since Trump took office. Shouldn't happen under a Republican President should it?
2. Manufacturing jobs are back thanks to the tax cuts, part of his strategy in tackling the trade deficit
3. Fewer Americans on food stamps, hard to believe that all they needed was a job, crazy how that works, get a job and get off food stamps
4. And the markets, what can you say they speak for themselves (current lockdown aside).
Anyone who tries to discredit his job on the economy can't be taken seriously.
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7 minutes ago, do or die said:
The New Deal was a one-off to address massive unemployment (like today) He implemented it after being elected, Roosevelt gave no details on the election trail...knew that he was getting in, on the strength of not being Hoover (sic) True that a lot of that employment was generated by massive public works projects - but given the situation - needs must. Also Roosevelt was the first President to take advantage of new media (radio) in address the fears and discontents caused by the depression, and re-assure citizens that government had not forsaken them.
Roosevelt was a product of the times.
The only job Clinton created was from Monica. He inherited a hot economy and the dot.com bubble.
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1 minute ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Looks like I won the bet.
Only because I had to correct an error.
Now I'm done with it, too offensive to some.
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1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Statistically insignificant? If you have children pick one to kill then come talk to us.
Most had pre-existing conditions which puts them in the group that needs to be protected the most, the sick and the old.
Last year in the USA 179 healthy babies died from the flu according to the CDC
https://www.verywellhealth.com/deaths-from-flu-2633829
It's sad but it happens.
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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:
Plenty of young people dying too
There is your exact quote, plenty doesn't = an insignificant statistic that can't be measured beyond the margin of error, unless we are discussing climate science.
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13 minutes ago, do or die said:
Top 5 Presidential Job creators:
1. Bill Clinton (1993-2001): Most number of jobs created of all Presidents (18.6 million jobs) 15.6% increase, the third-largest percentage increase
2. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945): Largest Percentage Increase. 21.5%, of all Presidents
3. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989): Second-Largest Job Creator, 16.5 million jobs during his eight-year term, a 16.5% increase. Reagan was the second-largest job creator both number-wise and percentage-wise.
4. Jimmy Carter (1977-1981): Fourth-Largest Job Increase 9.8 million jobs, a 10.9% increase.
5. Harry Truman (1945-1953): Fourth-Largest Percentage Increase 6.9 million jobs. The 13% increase was the fourth-largest among modern presidents.
You know those numbers are misleading, Roosevelt was the only one I believe who actually ran on the New Deal.
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Just now, do or die said:
We know the issues already existed, but no excuse for the disgraceful manner for which Trump has simply exacerbated them. In Trumpland, people don't seem to need to weigh and evaluate the media on a case basis, but merely play follow the leader.....
It was building under Obama, the hate and feeling of being left behind, jobs being taken from them by immigrants yada yada, Trump just rode the wave, it was perfect timing, probably won't be replicated ever again, until the next black democratic president.
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9 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
Name me one time when cutting taxes on the wealthy ever helped an economy. Or when tariffs ever helped an economy.
You are one of those types that thinks about the economy in completely backwards ways.
You don't build a strong economy from the top down. You build it from the bottom up.
People have jobs under Trump that didn't under Obama, at the end of the day feeding your family is what matters to the average voter.
You can lecture all you like about trickle down economics and whether or not it works but it's not about that and if you can't see that then you are looking in the wrong places.
Ask the older Democrats who they voted for last election, it was Trump because they wanted some returns on their 401K's before they retired and it worked out very well for them.
The democrats never run on jobs because they can't deliver.
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5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
No there are lots of cases of young healthy people dying.
Like everything the old and sick are the most vulnerable, but pretending that there aren't people outside those groups affected it simply pants on head ********.
This is the last I am going to say, go to the last graph and you will see that the number of deaths for the youngest age group is statically insignificant. That means it doesn't even register because the margin of error is greater than the actual statistic.
Apologizes if I offended anyone but some point are politicians are going to have to have this discussion if they haven't already.
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3 minutes ago, do or die said:
Taking the existing inequalities as well, as the social, racial, and political differences and disagreements already in America....and making them much worse, by using them all as wedge issues for political gain through non-stop dog whistling and gas-lighting.....is actually pretty bad.
He maybe empowered the ugly side but it has always been there festering under the surface. America isn't what many people think it is. A good American Liberal thinks they are doing their part by the number of illegal servants they have working for them. The media hasn't helped either, you can only cry wolf so many times before they tune you out.
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28 minutes ago, Tracker said:
The sad thing is that pretty much all this was predicted when Trump was elected, but I do not think that anyone would have believed the depth and breadth that Trump would go to to benefit himself by corrupting both the GOP and senate. Apart from all the corruption and gross incompetence, the GOP, with complicity/silence from the Democrats has mortgaged the future of America for at least the next decade. If/when the Democrats come into power again, they will have no choice but to raise taxes, and you can bet that its not going to be on the top1% or big corporations. The GOP will howl about how profligate the Democrats are.
Everyone knew he would be corrupt but hoped the good he did for the economy would outweigh the bad.
Depending on which side of the fence you are on determines if the good outweighs the bad.
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4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:
You’re certainly the most likely person here to spot a lie since you spew them so often and in such great volume. But it’s not a lie. It took me seconds to find a report from April with nearly 1000 younger people dying of covid in the US.
If you have an ounce of class you will apologize to me. If you have two ounces you’ll go away for good.
And it took me even less time to confirm it,
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
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Just now, The Unknown Poster said:
Plenty of young people dying too. You want to tell the parents is the children in Manitoba who does that oh well it’s just the flu? Why you’re tolerated here is beyond me. You jumped the shark along time ago.
Complete rubbish but don't let that get in the way of the facts.
The data is in and the doctors know that the old and sick are the only ones who need protecting so quit trying to make it about something it is not.
And your first sentence above is a complete lie.
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17 minutes ago, Tracker said:
Mike Pompeo ‘crossed a line’ by forming CIA advisory board ‘solely designed to advance his potential funding and political network’
Written by Alex Henderson May 27, 2020
Before Mike Pompeo was secretary of state in the Trump Administration, he served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency — a position he held from January 2017 (the month Trump was sworn into office) to April 2018. Journalist Natasha Bertrand looks back on Pompeo’s activities as CIA director in an article for Politico, reporting that he “put together an undisclosed board of outside advisers” that “some at the agency viewed as inappropriately weighted toward wealthy individuals and well-connected political figures.”Yup Pompeo is your typical career political slime,
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13 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
yes.... Or do you simply not care about people and their well being?
See even ******* Trump stopped with the comparisons to the flu. It's the spread of this thing that is causing countries to react they way they are. If the thing spread at the same rate as the flu we wouldn't be seeing the precautions taken we do.
Stop trying to pretend you're smart enough to discuss this, just accept that you are a backwards thinking ******* of a person who wants people to die.
The old and sick are the only ones who need protecting from the flu, that is right from a Harvard doctor who knows more about this than you or I, so you quit pretending you more than a Harvard doctor.
Protect the old and the sick and let the rest of us get on with it.
That is not being uncaring, that is being practical.
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1 minute ago, 17to85 said:
The headline says best run when the study talks about fiscal solvency. That's editorialising.
Fair point.
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Just now, Sard said:
This is a much more contagious flu, with no vaccine. It's the level of contagion that really makes COVID scary. Because it is so contagious, that many more people can get it, increasing the risk of people getting severely ill and needing hospital care, which then has the potential to overwhelm the health care systems and causing more deaths.
THAT is what the measures were put in place to prevent.
Yes we know that but it will kill more because we have no vaccine. If we had no vaccine for the flu either they would kill just as many.
Again, are you going to stop the world every time we have a flu with no vaccine?
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Good article,
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/11-cognitive-biases-influence-politics/