pigseye
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I am so glad that you said that... You do remember what happened in 2011 don't you? Team stayed healthier, most notably at the qb position and it was in the grey cup. Now unless you're going to point to a qb that was a FA that was going to fix the position then You can kindly take this "You need to sign FAs" attitude and stuff it. They picked up a fairly significant FA this year and you still *****.. Free agency in the CFL is really as much of a crap shoot as the draft is. Honestly most of this "mack hates free agents" nonsense comes from last year when Sask signed Picard and Labatte and Carr went to Edmonton which is quite unfair in the grand scheme of things. Labatte and Carr are documented as having been less than truthful with their intentions to the bombers.
And thank you, you are the only one who recognizes the point, which was that nothing different has happened than what has happened before with the approach of management. I'm not saying that they should have signed veterans to replace the likes of Willis, Lobo, Kent and now Hefney.......only that they didn't. Had they gone that route, it would have been a detour from what they have done in prior years.
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I'm not sure how it isn't the question. You can't criticize someone for not adding veteran free agents without being able to back that argument up. CFL free agency is populated by guys that are there for a reason. Being a free agent is not a good thing, because it means the team you were on did not want you. It's not hockey or baseball. Generally changing teams in football is a really bad thing for a career, particularly for CFL imports. There is the odd guy who hits free agency who was stuck behind other guys on his team, but those guys are not usually the ones that people clamouring for "veteran hole fillers" are interested in.
You can't draw a broad stroke over all free agents like that, the Bombers let Labatte go because they didn't want him is what you just said, which is complete BS. Same with Gregg Carr, they thought the deal was done and he slimed them in the end. There are many reasons why guys go to free agency other than their team didn't want them anymore, the biggest factor being the SMS now but money is almost always the main reason.
And you missed the point of the thread, what has changed this year with the way the team approaches the off season.........zip, nada, nothing......it was the same off season as 2011 & 2012 as far the approach to addition and subtraction.
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Which positions are you concerned about specifically? There are really only two spots that won't be occupied by veterans in game one... Nickel and WIL LB. Two out of 24 starters. Below league average. And WIL is going to be filled by a guy who was here for a full season already, and the nickel will eventually be filled by Sears who was one of our best DBs last season. Other than that we're going with veterans all the way.
It's easier to answer which positions am I not concerned about.
RB would be the only one.
Everything else is just a big uncertainty.
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By all means, tell me which veteran free agents you would have liked to sign that would have filled a need. This is consistantly the worst anti-Mack argument out there.
That's not the question though.
Nothing changed as far as the approach to the team even after a losing season. We are back to the same formula of letting prospects grow into positions, which is always painful.
And I would start back in the first year of the program as far free agents go. This isn't just about passing on guys this time around, it's about passing up guys since they took the controls. If they had signed even one marquee free agent a year since they started, they could have locked down 4 positions.
You don't build a team in a season, you add to it every year, thus the 5 year plan. Continually cutting guys and adding prospects does not get you there.
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The Als just took a look at the Bomber LB'ing corps and decided that they didn't need a feature back in this one.
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Younger, cheaper again, it's the mantra of this regime, so no, there hasn't been any change.
Change would have been going out and plugging the holes in the team with veteran free agents who could make an impact immediately without the growing pains.
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Sounds like most agree with the Wally school of thought, you play to win every game, pre-season or not, you expect to win every game, so you're going to play that way and expect it out of whatever players you line up that night.
The Burke school of thought, I have my team picked already, let's just get on with the season, I don't want to waste my time with preseason games, here's what I think of your preseason, a line up of no-names with no chance of even scoring a point let alone being competitive.
I can see the league being slightly po'd about it but, since it was southern Ont team doing the pounding, I suspect they were happy about it to raise hopes in that area. Still a pretty arrogant move on the part of Burke/Bombers imo.
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It's preseason Mike.......still honing my skills......I thought it was pretty funny.
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Montreal 10 - 7 - 1
Toronto 10 - 8
Hamilton 9 - 9
Winnipeg 4 - 14
BC 13 - 5
Cal 11 - 7
Suks 8 - 10
Esks 3 - 15
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I don't see Hef as a SAM LB........he's just not physical enough to stand up to the pounding that the position requires, really don't blame him for telling Burke to stuff it.
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Very, very interesting.....must have a heck of a lot of young talent in camp, although last game would seem to suggest otherwise.
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We had an average but developing OL last year. One that improved as the year went on and looked much better near the end. January is a good tackle. Greaves and Sorenson are young and developing nicely. Swiston looks to be primed to join them this year. Plus Pencer and Dunn await in the wings.
The Bombers need to move on from Buck. You can't be worried about your QB being blitzed or hit and hope to succede.
It's not just worrying about Buck though, every Bomber QB has missed time due to injuries since 2011. That's a systemic problem, not just a personnel one. Time to change the entire system when a 40 year old fragile as a twig Calvillo can make it through an entire season while our meat grinder goes through 3 a year.
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you don't see what is to be gained by evaluating players in the mode that you'd be employing them in an actual game?
Not when the other side is offering no resistance to it, that's not an accurate assessment imo.
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Actually bluto, I don't see what a DC could learn about his players by having them blitz an offence that is doing nothing to try to pick it up?
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i don't buy this at all.
i doubt Jones cared at all to see Crowton's protection packages. he was busy doing his own thing, which is to attack the QB from different directions at different times. it's how they practice, it's how they scrimmage and it's how they play. it's the only way his D rolls and to be fair about it, coach Scott told Burke ahead of time.
lol, yes that super aggressive CJ defence that lead the league in sacks.........oh wait........dead last with 27 last year, what's wrong with this picture???
Hey, I do like CJ, he is imo, the best DC in the league in recent memory but to say that this defences attack QB's..........the only time they attack QB's are when they are helpless on the ground or delivering a late hit. They play on the edge for sure but are far from some QB attacking machine.
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Given this particular instance, I would say otherwise. Lack of preparation being Burke's first game as HC, and an underwhelming gameplan is on the coaches. Poor/no execution, undisciplined penalties, and a general lack of attention/awareness, is on the players.
I'd say the Argos were trying to force the Bombers into revealing more of their protection packages by going after our QB's and I'm glad that Burke and Crowton didn't fall for it and get into a **** swinging match with them in a meaningless preseason game.
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Don't be surprised when he's ineffective. Buck isn't a pocket passer. He doesn't make quick decisions, nor does he have a quick release. He's had the two worst seasons of his career (2011, 2012) while trying to become a pocket passer.
Sure, he might not be the guy and there is nothing stopping them from trying the next and the next, all I'm agreeing with is the concept of protecting the QB so that he has the time to make the throws instead of running for his life or getting blindsided.
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and this is why i hope Mack is the GM in Winnipeg for many years to come: an engaged fan who has been paying attention can take 2 minutes in a post to come up with a better plan than he can.
That's the worst idea I have heard since the nameless one brought in the Bishop.
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The only thing certain is that a scrambling QB (CFL or NFL) are going to get injured sooner rather than later. Doesn't matter if it's Buck or RG3, Burke and Crowton are doing the right thing by having him stay at home more and increasing the protection. He'll still have the chance to escape which will keep defences honest.
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Apparently it wasn't as obvious to some but, it should be common knowledge for football fans that when you replace a proven player at a position with a prospect there is usually a learning curve and drop off at the position before any real progress is made. Thinking you can just 'plug in' a prospect (even a sophomore) at the professional level without a drop off initially, is just foolish.
Now a team that goes from GC finalist to out of the playoffs the following year (in spectacular fashion too boot) should be enough proof of the kind of drop off you can have if you go too far.