The Unknown Poster
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Actually that is exactly what was said, that Buck harmed the team. If the poster is unable to clearly express his point then he should stop trying.
No one said Buck would flourish in BC but looking at this logically we can choose one of the following options to explain Buck's decline:
a) Buck suddenly woke up and forgot how to play the position
Buck came to camp in 2012 following a successful 2011 and found an awful OC and a terrible O-line that never got better. Four other QB's played equally as bad or worse under the same conditions. The HC, OC, CEO, GM were all fired.I'm not trying to argue that Buck is a great QB. Nor am I trying to argue that Buck should be starting here or anywhere. But Buck did nothing to hurt the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. And I'd certainly argue that his mere presence did not harm the Winnipeg Blue Bombers or stunt the development of the QB position. Other teams seem able to develop their number 2 and number 3 QB positions behind their starter. It's ludicrous to suggest that Buck had to go before we could begin to find his replacement. That is complete lunacy. The inability of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to develop QB's behind the starter, develop a future starter or bring in a bonafide starter had nothing to do with Buck other than the General Manager mistakenly feeling Buck could have success here under these circumstances and that the guys he brought in at #2 & #3 *were* developing.
Having said all that, great trade for us. Good opportunity for Buck to move on. But it does nothing to answer the QB position issue of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. We still don't have a legitimate starting QB and none of our back-ups have yet shown any sign that they could be the guy.
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That cant be a serious tweet....lol
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I understand now. My opinion is different than yours so its easy to dismiss my point because I am "hanging off Buck's nuts". Thats how people without a point to make try to make points. I'm not disputing the validity of Buck as a starter or not. My point is that Buck did not harm the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. It's not a situation where we should be happy to rid ourselves of some terrible person who was maliciously harming the franchise. If anything, mack was far more of a negative presence. Buck showed up and did his job to the best of his ability and health. Period. He did nothing negative to the team.
I'd also argue strongly that Buono gladly took him because he recognizes that Buck has the ability to me an emergency fill in if needed. Buono looks at the Bombers and likely puts more onus on a TERRIBLE O-line and TERRIBLE O.C. than he does in Buck's inability to play the QB position. Buck was decent in 2011. What changed in 2012 and this year? Worse OC, worse Oline. Upheavel. etc.
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During the game, TSN went down to Sara O who said there was some sort of altercation between the O & D. Anything else come up about that or did anyone notice anything during the game?
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I love how SmokinBlue qualifies his post with the caveat that if anyone disagrees with him they are unintelligent. You are smokin something, but it aint blue.
Buck did not do harm. Im not sure what you fail to understand about that. He did not do anything to the team. He showed up, played hard when he could. The GM and coach's make the decisions. I'd also take exception to your point that Buck somehow held back the development of the QB position just by being here. I assume that means BC's QB development is now being held back? That's ludicrous. I think I know waht you're trying to say, you just lack the ability to express your point with the common sense needed to get the point across.
If any of our QB's behind Buck had gone on to have success, I could at least agree that we were in a holding pattern hoping for the good Buck to re-bound. But brink & Elliott arent even playing right now and Goltz has looked like anything but the answer. You can argue that moving away from Buck last season would have sped up the process of finding a new starter, but again, thats not Buck doing harm to the team. That's a decision made by the General Manager.
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Yeah maybe except he specificially replied to Joey. It would be a shame if a QB with some potential ends up out of the business due simply to poor atitude.
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As an unknown commodity, he is doing the right thing by trying to put his stamp on the team. Wade will know what Walters is all about. If the move was made tomorrow to make him official GM, I wouldn't be upset.
That might also impact the coaching staff. Lawless reports that Wade and Walters both like Burke and want him to succeed. The efforts Walters makes to improve the team this season will have a direct impact on whether Burke gets another chance with better talent. Which ofcourse will determine the likelyhood of the other coaches staying on too.
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Probably not a great development when you're receiver thinks so little of you he insults you on twitter. Would love to know what Joey's issues are...
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I agree with. But there are people that have had some very disrespectful and "unclassy" things to say about Buck on the way out. I think people forget that while this is a business, it involves human beings.
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When our D plays the way it can play, they are truly great. And adding Sears would be even better. Wasn't it stated that Burke was more hands-on again this past week? Goes to show where Burke's real value is. Any chance of Burke staying on as Head Coach AND D.C. with the caveat that he accept an "associate head coach" to assist him? Maybe CJOB can have the "Marcel and Tim Show"
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And trading Buck does nothing to help the QB problem that exists here other than maybe saving money and removing the desire of the coach's to "want" to go with the veteran in time of turmoil. We have no experience, no talent at the QB position right now. And I can only assume (or hope) that Walters is working on a trade for a QB.
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Buck has done more harm than good? Come on. So Buck was supposed to, what, demand that the team trade him, cut him, retire him? He hasn't done anything to the team. The team makes decisions. Mack made the decison to disregard Burke's desire to sign Glenn, not Buck. I realise the vocal majority "hates" Buck but to pin the failing of the franchise on a guy who's crime is he wanted to play is ludicrous. When asked about the trade, he was exceptionally gracious. I just think it would be nice if the fans could be half as gracious.
As much as I respect Buck, I agree this is a great trade and a move that had to happen. No reason to bury the guy on his way out just because he wanted, more than anything, to play and win for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
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Except you used to be a Buck supporter so you cant say he was a shitty QB his entire time here.
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People are speculating this is the precursor to a trade for an o linemen. Could it really be a set up for a QB?
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I would like to thank Buck for the time he spent here! They weren't pretty and he had to play behind some bad olines but He is a great community guy and has done lots for the city of Winnipeg and its fans. I wish him luck wherever he ends up.
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To he honest I like them both.
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Little doubt Buck would have been cut in the off-season so getting Foster is tremendous.
Doesn't buck make close to $300,000? We freed up a lot of cash here (unless most of it has been paid already).
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You won't get an argument from me on the quality of the trade. Kyle Walters is not letting an interim title impact his desire to make moves.
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Disappointed in all the glee here. Buck wore his heart and on his sleeve and would go to war if need be for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. He deserves some respect and gratitude.
Having said that the trade had to happen. As long as buck was here the other guys would be looking over their shoulders. Great move by Walters.
I wonder about the timeline though. The "undisclosed" injury, Elliott being released last week. Etc
So what's Foster's story....
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Looks like Burke helping out the d paid off. Might as well can Creehan.
Also even in victory it's obvious Goltz isn't the man. Next.
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Burke had several nice things to say about Goltz this week actually. And for the most part he excused his mistakes.
I know fans want to hate everyone and think they know better but I don't see Burke as the problem. It doesn't bother me that he's generally unemotional on the sidelines. Or that he's honest with the media. All of that means morning. If the team was 8-1 every Burke detractor would be raving about his personality and interview style.
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IGF is tremendous. I've sat in the end section of the upperdeck, no issue with sightlines there. I dont think concourses are an issue either other than I know a lot of people that spend a lot of time in the concourse rather than their seats because you can see the field. The Federal funding came in because of the tie in with the UofM. Was the land also donated by the University? ie. would the fair market cost of the land have pushed the fina; price tag way up had it been required?
I for one hope the UofM and Bombers use some of the surrounding land to increase the experience. I know there is a transit loop going in at the Golf Course but that area should include some parkland and "gathering" space. No reason why a Bomber game or concert can't be an all day major event in the summer.
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Im slightly disappointed that he isn't pursuing a QB trade asap but I guess it is what it is. One thing is for certain, we will know if Goltz and/or Hall are worth keeping.