that's kinda where I was coming from in saying that the jury is still very much out on Gray.... we've had others that showed more, faster. Now, having said that, I certainly understand that OL usually take longer and you don't wanna rush a guy. We've always said that Gray LOOKED the part of a "Young Walby", and we all know that Walby took a long time to develop, as well, but ended up playing a very long time. So, if we're patient, hopefully DG can develop into a long time stud as CW did...