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Oh I'd like him better as the 4th receiver but hands are a big deal for a receiver to me and he's shaky catching the ball too often. I'm not ready to run him out of town, but until he doesn't juggle **** like that touchdown I reserve the right to be skeptical about how reliable he is.

Ehhh he still has iffy hands. His touchdown was uuuugggggllllyyyy. He's got potential for sure but he needs to catch the ball better. Right now he's 2 out of 8 good games.

You really think that's how it went down? Cause from my perspective it was more like "look we know you're worth more but we don't have the space to offer you that, so go find what you're worth." And last season Bailey opted to take less just to stay. That's not disrespectful, that's just the business and both sides handled it well IMO. Now with 2 big ticket guys on the long term IR you can bring back a guy like that when he is released.

Team is playing like garbage this year, it's in Toronto, they have a bunch of injuries, there is absolutely no reason to expect a win... so they are naturally going to win.

How has he been disrespected?

**** we've all seen plenty of bad losses, it's the losses that don't have to happen and the refusal to change the approach that led to those losses that causes the anger.

Money... Bailey could get more elsewhere so they let him, already having Lawler, schoen and Demski... well now they only have Demski so, and schoen isn't coming back this year so you have room for Bailey now.

Demski as a #1 is miscast. As a #3 (which he normally is) he's a dangerous weapon.

Ayers and Jones were already on the roster! We just took 2 off and added more DBs without subtracting any DBs (Never mind that the 2 LBs coming off are the two best ones). The bolded is entirely the problem.... there were a handful of LBs from preseason that showed well they could have kept to be used in just this situation, instead we're left with "The only other linebacker they had available to elevate would have been Fabian Weitz"

In: McGhee, Bridges, Charbonneau Out: Wilson, Feltmate, Cole You saying that those moves make sense? 2 linebackers out, 2 DBs on the roster... Teamer for Teamer sure fine, but our front 7 already sucks and they did nothing to address losing 2 of those guys.

Well which Wilson are we getting? The one who played against Calgary or the one who played every other game?

Though I do think his placement when kicking from closer to midfield is very good, a real strength. But yeah, flipping the field by unleashing a massive punt from deep? Never gonna happen. We punt from deep the other team is getting a field goal minimum

Problem is they're fixated on most of the losses being close, so just clean up a few things... well most of their wins the last 5 years were close too... used to be we had the talent and depth to make the plays needed to win the tight ones, now they don't have either. They need to realize that before they can fix it.

100% this. Would have been the easiest thing in the world to avoid this fall... instead they doubled down on not avoiding it.

Awww christ now Noeller is gonna tell a Grey cup2019 story about that

Injuries usually happen when you're involved in the play

Poop...

Grymes eh...

What about edmonton? I think your criteria is flawed

Again, most games in the cfl are close, and every team that loses leaves plays on the field.... still not sure what your point is other than kissing the lions ass like you always do. It's just funny how the lions are the team that always gets excuses from you.

Because quarterbacking in the cfl us **** since Reilly retired and blm messed up his shoulder. Said it a million times the last few years, collaros being the best qb in the cfl is an indictment of the quality of quarterbacks. How did collaros wind up with the best stats? Well he had a hot summer. Seriously he went from the run away slam dunk MOP candidate to not even being his teams nominee as the season wore on. It's the cfl, does anyone believe that if collaros really was playing well that Oliveira would have had the opportunity to be the teams MOP candidate? No-one saying it was an instant drop off, but this version of collaros started showing up last season for sure. Age is a mother ******.

What difference does it make? And I'm not even talking specifically about the Bombers anyway. You just came in spewing this nonsense saying that the game would have been different for the lions if vaj completed more passes... to which I said any losing team is gonna wish their qb completed more passes... You just make every excuse imaginable for the lions, it's comical at this point.

Physician heal thyself.... Long passes are lower % passes... how on earth does it make sense in you mind to say what you said without it being a joke? If the qb completed better throws the game is different. Well no **** Sherlock.

Then why were so many of us pointing it out last season already? If you really get belligerent about this I will go dig up old threads to prove it...