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Traded a national player to get him, extended him to a new deal including a signing bonus... yes it's at least a moderate deal. It shows that our GM completely misjudged a player, that is a concern. Yeah from the standpoint of cutting a player who wasn't making the team better it's the right move, but the fact that they made the moves they did to get this guy only to have it not do anything for them, that raises questions about the management here.

it was academic. Burris is a fair weather qb, always has been, that's why he got shipped out of Calgary. Expecting him to do anything outside in November was expecting too much. He was fortunate that he got to play inside in the east playoffs. A team with a better cold weather qb could have beaten the riders, but Burris packs it in when things get tough.

Bold statement considering we haven't seen Ottawa play yet, what if Ottawa has absolute **** defense? I'll take my chances with a team with a decent D and erratic qb over a better qb and **** D.

it used to be on that channel on sirius last year but this year it wasn't

That's all well and good for people with unlimited data plans, but some of us live in provinces where they rape you for using data.

Excellent question, I was looking for it yesterday as well and couldn't find it. Figured looking on my phone while driving wasn't a good idea. Luckily I was in Alberta and could get the games on the AM stations but The only damned reason I kept the Sirius subscription was for CFL games.

I got the RIders winning still. Too many pieces still there... that being said the rest of the week has been pretty unpredictable.

No quarterback does. That's the reason people forgot how good Ray can be. That Edmonton o-line has been making qbs look poor for years now.

I know my COTY prediction happened BEFORE opening night. ISO, I had a terrible feeling about last season, and it started in March and I called it as such. Not saying I'm right all the time and frankly anyone looking at the bombers from an objective eye called it last year. This year, I'm not there, can only judge from what I've seen on the bomber app (press conferences) and what I saw in he preseason games, but I liked very much what I saw/heard. A much better feeling, and I'd still be calling Mike O as COTY even if we had lost that first game because you're right, it's a looooong season and I was thinking the bombers would be getting stronger as the season progressed. The Argo game blew me away, we have a legit shot of being 2 - 0 to start the season, so there's nothing wrong with being excited. Funny, how so many people (over on our bombers) jumped down my throat, how I didn't know what I was talking about with the two QB's we signed, when I went ballistic on this organisation back in March last year. What I didn't expect was post like yours after positive comments. I really really doubt any Bomber fans have visions of hoisting the Grey Cup in Vancouver in 5 months, but lets treat this for what this is. A much better attitude, a 1000% improvement in coaching, finally a QB we can actually get behind emotionally (you once asked me why I hated Hall - more than once - to be honest I could care less about Hall, or Buck, or Chase, or Justin, or Joey, or Alex - emotionally indifferent was what you saw from me because I knew none of those QB's were going to be around long). So, not only am I going to be positive this year in wins, but as I've proven in the preseason, in losses too. I finally see a team that can progress, not regress. I still have one disappointment, we still can't find our own QB. I'm hoping Marve can be that 'guy' that WE find, as opposed to being a vulture and picking off of other teams. I'm not 'emotionally' invested in Marve yet, but I'm definitely not in the 'could care less' camp about him (Brohm, different story). is you back sore at all? you should take a break from patting it so often.

Kyries Hebert is a piece of **** and went head hunting in revenge for one of his guys getting lit up because he wasn't expecting a receiver to block... sounds about right for a moron with anger management issues.

had to listen to both games on the radio today but from what I could tell the qbs were taking a beating out there.

of course there's a chance, as has been said up thread, the Bombers of the past few seasons were experts at finding a way to lose.

well at the very least Garcia was after Flutie

How about you do your due diligence before you give up an asset and throw a pile of cash at the guy? We have scouts on staff who are supposed to be on the ball about this stuff right? I can't help but think if the last couple GMs had been here to do this the reaction here would be decidedly more negative, and if we weren't still enjoying a big big win the reaction would be more sour as well. I generally like Kyle Walters, but let's call a spade a spade, the Banks move which they crowed pretty loudly about is a bust of a move.

Hey we're all excited about what we saw on opening night, but we're also bomber fans, we should all be aware that it can all go to hell in the span of a week.

The issue if they are looking to trade the guy is that you make a deal to acquire him and sign him to a contract touting the fact that you don't care that he's slowing down you want his leadership... and then ship him out before he plays a game for you... how do future free agents react to offers from a front office that is ruthless like that? I mean it makes sense if Banks has no job here, but the optics can be as damaging as anything.

Obviously impossible to answer that, but the main advantage I would previously have given Collaros is his scrambling ability and how he can extend plays because of it. That advantage still holds true, Willy is not that style of QB, but what Willy can do (which I did not expect - at least at this level) is move around the pocket with great fluidity. He also does not panic when flushed from the pocket. Re-watching the first exhibition game from Toronto I was reminded of Aaron Rodgers when I watched Willy; specifically how he keeps his feet moving while scanning downfield, always resetting so he's in the best possible throwing stance. He doesn't have the same small hops that Rodgers does, but the end result is the same. Find target - fire. "mobile" qurterbacks who extend the play are over rated. Give me pocket presence and compsure over a "dual threat" any day. A true dual threat is a hell of a weapon. There's a long history of those types flat out dominating the CFL. The key is that they must be able to pass and not just be a runner who can occasionally make a throw.

Size is great but skill is skill and you absolutely need some skill even if it does come in a really slight body.

well the optics of that aren't good...

hey did you delete my post? Come on if we can't curse out a **** talking rider fan here then what's the point?

I'd rather Bryant than Kelly Wow, good call. Add this to your Mack, Etienne and Pencer love and I'm really getting a feel for your shrewd assessment skills. We'll soon have to change your avatar to George Costanza.

what I like about Willy the most in terms of his mobility is that he doesn't just tuck the ball and run, he actually keeps his eyes downfield and moves around to buy time to make a pass.

yes because you can't really trade them when they're a package deal.

not bad, I could drink this... no promises about sobriety but....

don't. this is the dawn of the rebuild that the Bombers should have begun several years ago. the Wade/Kyle/Osh thing needs a year to gain traction and momentum. yeah, i know you've heard that refrain several times over the last 2 decades... and that the emotional stamina required to willingly get on the same roller coaster that has made you nauseous over and over is immense (i am a Leaf fan after all)... but the aggregate of the Bomber's moves since Miller came on board (and put Walters in place, and hired O'Shea and allowed him to have a dozen other coaches) has got to have you looking at the team's trajectory and believing in it. (heck... i do) Bluto, I see this as a team that wins 5-6 but is competitive, Willy establishes himself as a legit starting QB, Gossen and Neufeld become good NI pieces on the OL and we start building a nase. You? yeah, 5-7 sounds right. and i've said elsewhere that you may have to wait for a few of those until the arse end of the schedule when your remaining opponents have already clinched. my hope is that Willy gets at least 14 starts and progresses as the year goes on. We were just talking here about how it is a foreign concept for us to expect a qb to play the majority of games in a season... In my mind if Willy starts 14+ games it's a huge win for the team just because it means we have a qb we can at least somewhat rely on.