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Yeah there really is something to be said for doing subtle things to keep the defender guessing. Milt used to have a whole pile of tricks he could throw out there to make dbs look silly too.

I vote indifference. I don't know that there is enough in general to really get lost however if people want it then more power to em.

well to be fair Lapo was OC then too....

I thought cj Roberts was not as good as the others last year. Yeah he had some big ints but didn't seem to me to be as consistent.

The bottom line is that gbill was jealous of Mike because people liked Mike but they didn't like him as much. That's really all it came down to. Some people just can't see that they rub people the wrong way.

Oh I remember that thread now, oh the LOLs, Guy really got offended that people didn't bow down and kiss his ass.

everyone is looking for an edge, I still don't know that analytics are as useful in sports like football and hockey as people like to believe.

But the point is that it's mostly a scouting tool, whether it's self scouting or scouting players on other teams. I've said this plenty in lots of places, but any kind of statistics are only as valuable as the people interpreting them. Knowing how to use the numbers is far more important than actually having the numbers.

McFarlane seems to be a huge fan of Star Trek though so I would say it's less about making fun of it and rather paying homage to. So you don't even get your wish there.

But the hawks use it mostly as a scouting tool, and they use stuff that the fans and bloggers don't track. Plus in hockey it also has some discrepancy between stats and reality. Best example is Kris Russell. Guy has bad fancy stats yet still a good player and it drives stats nerds bonkers

The reason baseball works is because it's a series of one vs. one battles. Works less well in team play.

No the only reason people want these stats is so that they can make definitive claims without having to watch every minute. Players don't need them to know what they need to improve on, it's purely so you can make a judgement call on someone without having spent an exhaustive amount of time watching the player.

plus with all the ambiguity in what stats matter for a qb it makes it a hell of a lot easier to argue about who is better, which pairs nicely with drinking.

And for these reasons maybe we need to stop trying. I mean it's a position that really does rely on so many other people doing their job correctly it seems like a lot of wasted effort trying to distil an individual into a catch all stat that tells how good or bad they are. Can't we just watch the games and judge who is good and who isn't?

That's probably the biggest thing. I don't imagine that rugby has any more concussion problems than football and those guys play a physical game, they just have to make proper tackles and aren't trying to turn themselves into missiles to take the lazy way out of tackling.

You know the season is close when the rider fans start coming out of their holes.

could be worse, could be a guy that never played at all.

#MikeLivesMatter

I for one always dislike massive catch all threads. Your policy is bad and you should feel bad.

THIS. I dunno why people are dragging up names from 15+ years ago to try and argue but the CFL is a different game now, avoiding turnovers is arguably the most key thing right now so you can't expect to win when your qbs are tossing higher numbers of ints. Just doesn't happen in the CFL today.

Huh? You could do a LOT worse than Schneider as a starter, just because he plays in New Jersey doesn't mean he's not a bonafide starting goal tender. Dude is legit.

with Ogopogo around he wasn't going to play much anyway barring injury.

He knows a thing or two about winning, if that was ever a concern.

you don't have to do a 180, you just have to stop trying to outshine something that was fantastic like Ledger did. This was a try hard edge lord Joker and it sucked all kinds of ass.