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This is where the Brown vs. Collaros argument kind of falls apart from me. Yes Collaros was showing signs of slowing down, and yes Brown looked very promising in spot duty when he was here... but I'm not sure ANYONE in football would move on from a QB who was just off back-to-back MOP seasons, and the season we are talking about moving on from he was probably 3rd in the voting that year, and if the Argonauts don't go 16-2 is definitely the All-CFL QB... for someone who hasn't exactly lit the league on fire since he left. I also want to take this moment to throw some shade at MBT... of all the QBs in the league, he is the only one who hasn't completed a pass (to his team) 20+ yards past the line of scrimmage.
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Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
ShyGuy replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
https://3downnation.com/2025/07/29/winnipeg-blue-bombers-bring-back-veteran-db-dexter-lawson-jr/ The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have brought back American defensive back Dexter Lawson Jr. -
https://calgaryherald.com/sports/stampeders-in-week-9-qb-vernon-adams-jr-up-in-air-to-play-host-redblacks VAJ a limited participant yesterday and "pulled back" today. If he can't go Thursday that would leave Bo... And technically Arbuckle as the only Week 1 projected starters to not miss any time.
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Western Cats Against Eastern Cats GDT
ShyGuy replied to rebusrankin's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
This year? Wasn't he the East nominee for MOP last year? -
Worst case scenario for anyone hoping for Tre Ford to get another chance in Edmonton anytime soon. Fajardo puts up huge numbers, mostly in the 4th quarter against an uninterested defense while getting sacked 8 times. No one is going to remember them putting up only 4 points through the first 50 minutes, but will remember 350 yards and 2 TDs while losing by only 3 points against the team in 1st.
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Just gotta keister it into the stadium
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Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
ShyGuy replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think he's been a full participant in practice the last couple of days. Sounds like they kept him out Friday for precautionary reasons and he never had to enter the protocol proper. -
One thing I think we can all be sure of is it's not because he is unwilling. If there is one person I think of when overcoming adversity, it would be Chad Kelly. He is tenacious and does not take no for an answer.
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So Jake Ceresna had his knee pop out on a play, gets it popped back in and he ends up needing the cart to get him off the field later in the game. And yesterday he was listed as a full participant and is available for tomorrow. Is there some place I can make a prop bet that he gets carted off again this week?
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3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
ShyGuy replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think I almost prefer Wilson as the short yardage back at this point... that play they run where he creeps along the LoS and getting over the edge they sometimes run seems like a better plan than always pushing forward for 1.5 yards... it worked nice in the West Finals and it almost broke against the Stamps at one point. -
3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
ShyGuy replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
The Bombers Claimed the 2 worst plays of Week 7 per 3DownNation Not clear which play they picked for Streveler, the momentum crushing pick in the end zone, or the back-breaking pick-6. -
https://3downnation.com/2025/07/21/edmonton-elks-mark-kilam-non-committal-on-canadian-qb-tre-fords-starting-status-after-benching/ What was old is new again
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This kind of stuff is hard to look up. Obviously if the timing was right and Walters was out Ted Goveia would have been next man up... Has there been much overall success with hiring a GM outside of the organization and keeping the HC on? It seems like for the most part the incoming GM would want their guy in there. Looking at current staffs it looks like the only team with a coach not hired by the GM is Hamilton? And Milanovic is just in his second year there. I guess the statement here is that yeah it's probably easier to replace the GM, but historically I think that ends up with a HC replacement pretty soon thereafter.
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Conspiracy theory time... maybe Arbuckle is the #1 QB in the Toronto. Kelly coming back off his broken leg, allegedly back at training, then apparently he gets a ingrown toe nail and now it's been 7 weeks on the 1-Game IR, Toronto is looking like **** and apparently he is rehabbing in Buffalo. Maybe he's never coming back
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Dustin Crum is "but we have Chris Streveler at home" personified.
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Bob Dyce throwing that he can't imagine how that isn't an ejection before they cut away from him during the HT interview
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Crum into the game for Ottawa after an insane head shot RTP by Amos
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I miss Rasheed Bailey
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Alexander ruled out week 8
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Would it be more or less bush league than announcing a 7% rise to the cap 4 days after free agency opens?!?
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The reason I made it as a "rumour" is that there was a followup posted on 3DownNation with some quotes from front office staff https://3downnation.com/2025/03/27/cfl-salary-cap-increase-not-set-in-stone-cflpa-still-working-through-revenue-share-allocation/ And I don't think invoking Stegall is the counter argument you think it is? Having the greatest WR in league history on the roster and making it to the Grey Cup twice sucks. Him having a pupuplatter of QBs to throw to him is obviously roster mismanagement. What is the point of having Kenny Lawler on the team when you have 2 QBs where the starter was 5/16 on passes >20 Depth yards going into Week 7, and the backup has an average depth of target of 8.5 yards, Lawler is leading the league in 20+ depth targets at 16. On the Bombers this year you'd have him blowing the top off the coverage and no one to actually have the ball make it to him. His average DOT last year (16.6) actually isn't that far off from this year (17.8)... but he already almost has as many 20+ targets (16 vs 21) and more receptions (9 vs 10). If you want a team with exciting players, Lawler on the Bombers is a great fit. If you want a team that is going to be competitive you can better use that money somewhere else. But the only reason we are wasting so much time discussing this, is that Lawler is having Bo toss him the ball, which is a match made in heaven for him, and the Bombers essentially used the money they would have given Lawler on J Jones and D Mitchell... both of which the Bombers refuse to put onto the active roster.
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110/300 is still around a third of the way to Lawler. Someone rightfully mentioned J Jones and Mitchell sitting on the 1 game, that right there is almost a Lawler... but as I kind of mused about above I don't really thing a Lawler type is a luxury this team can really utilize. The rumoured increase in the cap... who knows where that went. A lot of the talent... even if they wanted to stay some of those contracts are woof. 260K for Drew Desjarlais, 215K for Hardrick, 205K for Dobson, 230K for Ford, Some of the ones that got away that I feel hurt because those contracts ended up being pretty reasonable (or they just decided not to play)... Stove Richardson, Casey Sayles, Jeffcoat, J Grant... I'm actually drawing a blank on players the Bombers didn't bring back that had some success with their new teams... Desjarlais got an East All Star Nod, Same with Sayles... Adams had one season he almost hit 1K receiving yards. Brown is looking somewhat promising but no matter how much you invoke Wally Buono I don't think anyone is going to move on from a QB that was back to back MOP and probably finished 3rd in 2023... unless he literally managed to lose a leg at some point between the 2023 grey cup and the opening of free agency... and even then with how the Bombers have treated their guys in free agency with injuries probably not even then. I dunno... I am kind of working myself in circles looking at rosters from 2019 on. It seemed like the Bombers were just REALLY good at having those elite guys who made a bunch of money, and then filling the roster around them... but as the years have gone by, those Elite guys are pretty much the same (Jefferson, Bryant, Collaros,, Demski, I'm gonna combine Harris and Oliveira into 'Elite Canadian RB'... Bighill and Alexander... but at least they cut losses there)... and now those players are no longer near elite but the players they have been bringing in as support have just been for the most part huge whiffs. 2021 they bring in Dee Alford, Nichols, Rose, Houston and Darby for Corners. 2022 is Ford, Holm and Parker. This year you have Bonds and Bridges out there and it seems like there is a broken coverage every quarter. Nichols always seems to be chasing someone... is he covering for mistakes or has he mysteriously fallen off because he was lights out last year. Are the Bombers unable to bring in talent these days because incoming players know that the mafia has their guys and they will never get their shot? Are they just on a really poor run of identifying talent? Do they have too much confidence in the medical staff / how players are telling them they feel? Some combination or the above? Like mentioned above, you can exchange Thomas and Kolo (who are definitely O'Shea's type of player) for replacement types and Schoen coming off a knee injury for Kenny Lawler. The Bombers definitely have a history of very... questionable roster decisions around injuries. Streveler back this year off his ACL. Schoen ACL. Bighill, Schoen, Bailey and Collaros playing in the 2023 Grey Cup all clearly injured. Collaros coming back into the game in 2024. A 38 year old Bryant collapses in a game last year. Neufeld admittedly playing injured all last year. Oliveira getting injured in camp and playing the first few games. J Grant busting up his ankle on a rush he ends up diving up the middle and the Bombers move on. So many weird decisions. I apologize for the rambly nature of the above
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Jake and Kolo have both never appeared on the highest paid players list, they are probably making somewhere between $100-$120K. Even if they aren't around you still have to replace them with at least a minimum salary guy (which may or may not actually be an improvement... probably for Thomas, maybe not for a center).. so at 70K you are saving about 50K a head and you are still only a third of the way to Lawler. If you are talking about dudes with experience to replace Kolo, McEwen got 150K or so from the Riders, but he is 32 and not really a long-term play. Beard, also at 32, got 197K from Edmonton... and surprise! Both of those guys are injured. It seemed for the longest time Eli was going to be the plan at centre... who knows what is happening there. Both the lines have way too many way too old guys on it.
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3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
ShyGuy replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Bombers have their kids combine on Monday. Maybe they can find some bodies for the d line meat grinder there. They would come cheap tol -
This is how the Kenny Lawler discourse feels like sometimes