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Agree. Excellent low risk high reward guy. Lucky too. If grant doesn’t come back I’d take a look at lucky cheap as a last wr and kr. He’s a down field possession wr. Similar to Kenny lawler. Relies on getting open by route running, pattern tree/play design. And with his hands / frame doesn’t need a ton of separation.

This is a good point. Even in games with both we can’t know who was on the field. In the past we rotated dl a lot and for entire series would have any dl off. If we had last year first half wj and the previous first half year from JJ all year we’d a had record sacks.

I agree with this. The elite tier is those 3. Second tier is divisional All-Star quality guys. top tier, lawler schoen Lewis 2nd tier white hatcher Demski hardy (Demski is in this tier as much due to his diverse dynamic useages and elite blocking) 3rd bane emelius Hollins begelton Daniel’s but despite that I’d take the risk on guys like Mcinnis Coxie Snead cottoy hollins bane and emelius over guys like begelton and Daniel’s based on upside and ability to move up. The performances the riders WRs put up with the corpse of Harris and a bunch of qb3s is impressive. If any of those guys took baileys spot and last years reps they’d be in the 2nd tier easy.

We’ve seen a ton of turn over in the top 2 wr tiers the last couple years. Teams seldom fit their offence to their pieces these days. It makes for a low floor but a high ceiling for new guys. The homogenization of systems has teams looking for the same guys and taking less chances and more talented/athletic guys. Kenny lawler excels on polished skills, football iq, and effort with a great frame to boot. The Tim whites are the rare exceptions in the league now. With the hash change we haven’t seen more dynamic screen / catch and run type stuff, but we see more high percentage medium depth outs, ins, seam busters, and rub routes. how many guys are in the league that you’d be comfortable taking a deep 50/50 ball in the clutch? Lots. Every team has more than one on average. How many guys are that twitchy speedy dangerous type that can take any catch for a score? Not many. wr is the least of all concerns for the riders.

You’re right that he was dressed for week 1, but Looking at it he suffered the calf injury early in the first. He too a few snaps but idk how many. But he was out for the 3 sacks by the other 2 ends. And leaves the other games.

Yeah that was the only place showing much of his pro day numbers. The nfl break down contradicts the draft buzz directly lol

Jj is a great pass rusher who makes our defence and every one in the front better when he’s on the field. I love that guy, it sucks soo bad that it’s ending and he was never able to stay healthy and put up the monster stats to match his calibre of play. His impact doesn’t need to be conflated. Wj is a great pass rusher and has been even when jj isn’t dressed. Wj isn’t nearly as consistent pass rushing as jj, and most guys aren’t consistent in getting sacks. Some times you flush the qb some times you get the easy sack. Habba was very productive in place of jj, and has some great moves/first step. May or may not be legit, two of his sacks were easy finishes. 2 he ducked tackles and took advantage of his short height and leverage. But I’m excited to see where he goes. wj started the year very well last year. And jj missed a big portion of the first half year.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jeremiah-gemmel/32004745-4d44-4955-ac81-ab519eb69d75 https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jeremiah-Gemmel-LB-NorthCarolina love that he’s a 3 year very productive starter at a high level. Looks like a guy who plays with speed not a track guy. Good size for a wil/s/sam in the cfl. His pff grades in pass cover were really good. Like the look of him for a prospect.

That’s wrong. Jj did not play weeks 1-3 or 5. In week 1 wj had 2 sacks. In week 5 wj had 2 more. All 4 of habbas sacks came in games jj did not play.

Yea. Instantly bad results lol.

Rookie imp can play in the league and not miss a beat. It’s just hit or miss as to if guys can adjust to the Canadian game. Imo the yard off the ball makes it easier to adjust to pass pro as a tackle in the cfl.

That would be excellent for them or honestly a bunch of teams. Instant culture boost. Changes the entire nature of your ol and sets a whole new tone for the team.

I really wish we brought back Richmond and gray. I’d have zero worries in that case. As it is I’m sure we will bring in more guys and probably find another hardrick to develop. I also find it interesting no one else is going after gray. Maybe rice. If I was the riders I’d a been going after guys like rice and gray. Rebuild around young Canadian ol who have won.

I think the question is, will Bailey retire? Didn’t he have a side gig coaching hs or some thing?

Gonna be like this till the draft too ugh.

I don’t even hope we raid. I hope we target one guy and bring in one key fa. Idk any other team that doesn’t and relies entirely on internal development and rookie scouting. I love Bailey. Imo though he’s a max 125k range guy. And that might need to be with incentives. If any one wanted to give him a crazy deal he should’ve taken it. That’s not sustainable for him. I don’t think he will see 130k offer from any one this year. And Tim white is only hurting his value.

The bigger point you’re missing is lining up against cersena in your first start is very different than the dt2 as a guy with many starts over several years. Also, Dobson didn’t come from a zone blocking scheme. And if there is no tackler at the second level when you get into space if you are the double and skip guy in the scheme you aren’t going to our run the play and find a guy to block.

No, he had a stronger arm than either. It’s not even close. They weren’t throwing 60-70 yards with ease while falling on their ass or from their knees. Bishop did in game for and against us in fact. The very few guys who could legitimately claim a spot above him in all of pro sports are nfl outliers like Jamarcus Russell. At the bishop level you are talking about QBs who break WRs fingers with max velocity.

Lofton stunk here too though. The concern is that he becomes the next Jackson. If the jags cut ayo oyelola I wouldn’t mind if we brought him back for global depth.

Castillo is for sure a good punter. It’s only worth carrying an extra guy if he is an extemely good punter and kick off guy. And even then, kick off depth could be trivialized this year. Love to see more Karamoko. Hope we draft more actual players this year too. Omf I knew we were gonna sign that dumpster fire. Damn it. That guys the worst imp T I’ve seen up here in years. Should we bring mourtada back? Bad experience isn’t an asset imo

Bishop had worlds more arm strength than any of those guys.

If we can have one guy doing all 3 kicking jobs, dress 6 ol, not wasting a di on the marine, and proper use of the fake ni we could gain a TON of active roster depth. No more hallet as the only back up db, or no back up WRs other than grant etc. we could carry an imp sts guy who is actually good on kick cover even

Bishop had an 11 out of 10 arm though. Every one in the league today has less arm then him.

Yep. Habba only played 1 game with jj. I get that it’s just a podcast, and I don’t follow any podcasts. But damn it takes next to no effort to be factual in this. I love jj, but he’s dependant on others more than the reverse. We need one guy to just go after the qb on a fast aggressive line. That can be any one almost. He’s a guy who gets pressure, but has always struggled to finish. Tbh he and wj are similar in the struggle to finish out sacks. If we had a guy like mauldin you’d see wj on a whole new level. Jj went a full month of games with out a single sack each of the last two years. Both in the middle of the season. He’s a beast when he’s healthy, but combine his running cold on actually getting the qb with missing 1/3 - 1/2 the season every year and it’s just not sustainable. the last two years 7 of jj 12 sacks have come against ssk and bc in 6 of his 26 games. With another 2 in 2 games vs edm. That means he had 3 sacks in 18 games against the rest of the league, while bc and ssk had the worst pass pro in the league over the last 2 years. His other sacks came 2 vs mtl in 2 games and 1 vs ott in 1 other. Doesn’t he post on here?

I mean maybe there is some confusion but that’s just not right. Habba had 4 sacks while jeffcoat was out last year playing in his place and wj was playing better before jj came back. 2023 jj missed weeks 1-3 and 5. In weeks 1 and 5 wj had 4 sacks. In weeks 1-3 haba had 1 sack in each game. His 4th came in week 15, which jj missed. That’s 7 sacks with out jj in 4 games for our ends.