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we need one more arm for camp and walters said we would probably look at the retreads to fill that spot later on. We already have a bunch of raw guys with basically no snaps. Need some one who has game prepped at a qb1, started and play a bit. We need that for sake of running camp offence units smoothly, for the D to work against, some one to throw to wrs that has adjusted to the field already etc. Pretty simple. Normal amounts of crazy vs abnormal levels of crazy. Even by religious qb/football player standards, mbt is out there. He’s just shy of snake handlers and magic under wear.

mbt, I think evans, couple guys in the same tier. I think it comes down to who takes a cheap deal first. That whole tier is a mixed bag with comparable value imo. Mbt is whacko, and I think his propensity to speak controversially to the media would hurt his chances here. Plus the fact we had him at his youngest and washed him out quickly. Tbh, I expect mbt to retire or maybe go to the ufl. But any one of the meh tier veterans would be fine by me.

als cut james morgan right before his 30th birthday. if he wants it he will probably get another cfl camp from some one as the last arm/ extra arm. Hes got a great arm, decent release and he’s still got tons of upside. Almost no chance of fulfilling it though. He’s more of a pitcher than a qb. And qbs who get to the pros with out any touch or accuracy basically never pan out. Maybe a team thinks their qb coach can finally fix his mechanics and bring finesse into his game. Or maybe a team will just want that wild, raw arm talent in camp for depth defenders and wrs to work with/against.

By serious, I mean some one will hand him a contract and pay him to show up to their camp, during which he will get 3rd-4th qb reps, play a couple pre season quarters, and if he is the 3rd best qb on the team they will put him on the pr after camp. Not a camp invite, not TCF, but basically what a prio fa signing would get. Thats his best case.

Hes 28 though. And not the prototype like elgersma is. Or have the stand out pre season performance. It doesn't guarentee any thing, but at his age, he would get another look for sure. Im really high on Bailey. He should've been on the roster most of last year. Not only can he be a good rotational piece, he's a good teams guy as well. He will. A bit more polish down south and he might get here ready to be a qb3 going into a camp.

A whole lot, yeah. Maybe if he lights it up in the UFL he would get a serious look. Short of that or coming here and doing the same, I dont see it happening.

it’s not an official combine invite thing, it’s an extra combine arm to be used as needed. If some one pulls out of throwing, gets hurt, or they need extra tosses and don’t want to over work guys. A decent few qbs these days elect not to throw at the combine. Instead throwing in friendly confines to guys they know and can rely on. But this generally isn’t known until right before the combine or during. So you can end up in a position where you need a couple extra arms to do a full work out just to keep the wrs busy. It is not like he’s going to have his performance graded and considered with draft prospects. It’s the most basic level of exposure to the nfl scouts you can get. It doesn’t hurt him to take it, but he also isn’t riding it any place. It’ll still be if he can get reps in the ufl and the weight of the partial pre season game he had, that decides if he gets an invite to camp with some one. Or if there’s a mad rash of qb injuries.

Pass rushing does require development. Especially in the CFL. You will see flashes of disruption without it, but the skill gap for most guys' pass rushing is huge. That's a big part of why DL get paid, and DBs don't. I do agree the promise is very strong with Jenkins, Jaworski and Bailey. And to an extent, DL who want to excel have to put in a lot of extra work themselves in the off-season. Coaching DL is a very highly sought-after skill set, and the NFL has been focused on cornering that market for a while. We don't get polished rushers with good size and athletic ability coming up here anymore. Mostly we get raw guys with a ton of talent/athleticism that need to be moulded into something special. And a few higher polish guys who either lack a lot of size or athleticism. In Jake We Trust

TC the media was pretty negative about how raw he was. But he did perform very well in his preseason look. If it wasn't for that pre-season game, he never would have gotten another NFL call.

My hopes for developing DL are greatly reduced by the poor job we've done developing DEs over a very large period of time.

Reading a Canadian D is a much easier transition to make than making the transition to reading a high-level D. How many D2 QBs come up here and succeed, or are blue-chip prospects even? It's very rare. The competition gap is gigantic, which is why people question his abilities. Because the talent gap from the CIS to ncaa is even more massive.

100%. I am hopeful for the young kids, but I'd like to see a really good end brought in or step up. Especially with WJ camped out on the other side. Jaworski is exactly the type of guy we need on that opposite end, if he can turn his flash last year into substance.

Yep. I love what jy and hall, but that is pretty much the only stretch of time we had that consistent disruption/pressure. Haven’t had great personnel on the dl over that time, but we also haven’t developed or made use of guys in that time. I hope hall and thomas focus on the dl and disruption while jy runs coverage. we’ve seen hall run some brilliant front concepts when he’s had the horses.

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disruption with 3-4 and pressure with 4 occasionally 5 is best. It leaves you with the most options. No answer with blocking for the blitz. The way to beat the blitz is to attack the cushion. on either side 2/3 targets, you will have only 1-2 dbs on the line usually 1. So you have one guy clear out and throw to the under route. If it’s your 3 man side you have the 2 under guys force the nearest defender to jump one. If the cover all play up on the line you bust them off the line and take it deep on a timing route. That’s how dons D was beaten. Teams stopped trying to out block them, and started using the spread to get the ball out quick. The counter for coverage, is to show and drop guys, rotating coverage showing man and dropping into zone, generally forcing the qb to change his read at every point possible. If you take away the qbs ability to rely on his pre snap read, you make it very hard to run the quick game and beat the rush. After that, the best option is to move the pocket a lot. Drastic line shifts, slide protection, half and full roll outs etc. It is very hard to effectively rush the qb, when you don’t know where he’s going to set up. Some people get caught up with play action, but that just slows the process of getting the ball out and setting up protection with the back. Jet/fly/rocket/orbit motion packs on the other hand can be effective at beating the rush but it requires a very specific threat to work. If you can disrupt and pressure with your base though, it’s extremely hard to beat that with X’s and o’s.

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you can, but blitzing is hard and strange in the cfl. The more guys you have that are reliable in coverage, like you said, you can do any ting and every thing better. D today is all about how well you can blanket with out breaking, and how well you can disrupt at the line. If a guy isn’t one of those or a guy who heavily enables others to do that easier, they aren’t an asset on the field. Just a body filling a spot. If you can take away over the top routes with out a massive bubble, you can run up and play the ball or the man and disrupt the pass too. Guys who can do both are worth their weight in championship rings. Guys like ba, biggie, and wj in their prime. jy/hall love versatile cover guys. Makes every one’s life much easier I wouldn’t be surprised if we find another db this year. We got lots of good vets, but we scout db and use them really well.

gotta think he’s a guy jy likes. It was interesting hearing how high jy was on moxie. sounds like to him getting moxie was on par with the white/jake/broxton pick ups. Db is gonna be a hell of a battle in camp

wow thats a surprise. guess he didnt get the money he wanted

Yep. The NFL loves hypocrisy more than monday night football.

speaking of politics, the nfl has won a grievance against the nflpa over pa grades. They aren’t going to be allowed to publish them any more, as people have been weaponizing the scores, while some teams (jets) have been slashing expenses like food to pocket more money. They are looking to a 3rd party to grade teams, which I think is great. I’d love to see the pa grades continue here but add the 3rd party grading as well.

I have a feeling he is thinking it’s something it isn’t. I can’t think of any qbs who served as the camp arm to get signed out of that for camp, little on make a team. I could be wrong but it’s a pretty big hail mary. It’s a strange move for him. It’s not bad by any means, I expect him to be ufl bound.

Not sure, he was spending some time during the winter in BC I think. He sure took to winnipeg though. He was in full practices for atleast 1/3 of the year. Idk what to think guess we will see if he makes it.

Id be very happy to have him here. So true. Thats what I would think. He isnt a top tier guy, but hes among the best of the 2nd tier guys. And his fit here would be extremely good. lol the DBs would LOVE him in camp. Imagine if we have 2 NI wrs down in one game? Yikes.

That's awesome, wonder if he's gonna go full-time into music post-career.