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I don't think Eli is the answer either. However, I can't see what it would hurt to have a look.

scrap it all...run the veer with Strev hahahaha Also a good way to make a struggling Oline that much better....But we'd definately need to swap Kolo with Eli to run it

Couple more lil tweeks and I can see us managing them quite well....and even our at times piss poor coaching may not kill us as I still think Mace is even more clueless...and that team is still super undisciplined We got a few games yet to get our house in order...so we shall see but based on record right now...they are best....over the course of yr tho and how it all shales out...I have my doubts.....specifically for 3 reasons...Harris factor....guys never won...Mace....and their undisciplined play and believing their own hype I do hope tho they claim 1st and we kill their hopes and dreams again at PA west....again haha

I agree. I have no issue with Hogan's play call in that situation but the play design does not appear to be a particularly good one. However, that being said we don't have much of a receiving crew to work with. I do think we would be celebrating a Kenny Lawler TD with same play call and him as the primary though. Walters has really bungled our receiving corps. Used to be the league envy, now its a joke.

Who knows who is really to blame but they really need to figure out what is going on in the red zone. Streveler the only QB in the league with multiple red zone INTs, and with the one that Collaros has the Bombers have 50% of all red zone picks thrown this year. On a team where the offense seems to sputter more often than not, you absolutely need to have those points. Even if you just get field goals there, you are going from third last in the league for PPG, to 3rd best.

I really think we need to peel back the green light we have given our QBs to go after it. That is 100% coaching. Collaros didn't suddenly become an interception machine. We had Lapolice and we would play safely to a fault, Buck went entirely too far the other direction, and now Hogan seems to be saying Buck hold my beer when it comes to allowing QBs carte blanche. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the play call to have a look and see if you can iso a receiver as long as the QB plays with situational awareness. Hogan can't possibly know that pre-snap. That is up to Strev to read.

hopefully this will make the coaches realize now that just because a guy was here last yr...2...3 yrs....that maybe they aren't the best choise...and we see actual true TC competition finally

exactly. Hogan needs to recognize that pre snap as well. The play should never have been called because it was a completely unnecessary call. At best you score and give them the ball back with plenty of time to pull off a come back. At worst...well.

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oh agree....both our QB's need tom do a better job of that...the last 2 seasons ZC has prob been worse....so is that coaching?...I would lean more to that as I don't think both our QB' have become that dumb...and I guess if we wanna spin it in a positive at least they trying to get a score hahahaah

If it isn't automatic then you launch it into the 3rd row. I am no fan of any play call asking a 5'8 receiver to climb the ladder either, and I can't imagine that they are particularly successful with it in practice either. I am assuming that Hogan saw something in the D alignment he wanted to go after and it wasn't there. In that case the QB has to be aware and not throw that ball. There is only one really bad outcome on that play and it is interception. Completion or incompletion are the desired outcomes of that play.

the right receiver likely could have made that...and who knows if he had the liberty there to call an audible....they may have said this is what we want.....hard to say....But Perfect high point throw there....or high backside toss...Sterns isnt the guy for that kind of play....so the playcall design right from get go was destined to fail regardless...I put that all on Hogan

I do agree the play design wasn't great, but I really believe that in that situation the QB really needs to be cognizant that there can be no interception on that play. If you don't get the matchup you desire on that play you take the incompletion. A QB has to have that situational awareness, and the OC needs to remind him as well. I have no issue with the play call. Take a look see if you can get a guy lost in coverage, but if you dont the fans should be getting a souvenir. An interception on a 50/50 ball is on the QB. That is a throw that should never have happened.

yeah...as what I trying to convey....was wrong side of endzone to throw that pass too....had to basically be a perfect pass, but even then the mismatch may have still sunk it

The QB needed to either audible off that play, or throw the ball into the 3rd row or somewhere that only his guy had a remote shot at. A 50/50 was a stupid throw to make in that game situation.

oh agree...and comes down to position on field and player package...that should have been tossed to opposite side of field and to a mismatch in our advantage...I like a coach with plums....that tho should have been a call at the line that if a certain coverage was shown there was a second option....I dont think we had anything other than take that shot...but who knows....I think Hogan needs to take a backseat right now to Jackson even if they dont officially announce it

No you can't. It's a throw that was unecessary, and that is execution. Just because you call a passing play doesn't mean the QB has to put up a 50/50 ball.

Yeah should have been a call that could been changed at line when they saw who/what coverage...or had 2 options...that was a 1 option throw it there regardless of what was seen on field...and the QB gets to wear the horns...If that was Lawler...Schoen....heck even Wheatfall that catch may have been made, ZC has had a lot of success and TD's scored with throws way worse than that but got bailed out...Strev didnt get bailed out...It wasn't that bad a throw really and a bigger...more apt to win 50/50 battle balls likely makes that catch...our receiver on that play is not that kinda guy

Timing of the play was the issue. With three minutes left - the Bombers could have run 2 running plays and then kicked a FG, going up 9 points with then 2 minutes left. Much better situation. If the Bombers scored a TD, they would have been up 13 points...which is STILL a 2 score game.... there was little difference in either scenario... ultimately - it was a terrible coaching decision - followed up by a bad read and poor execution.

100% you can. Play calls should absolutely take match ups into consideration so the execution is more likely than not. Our shortest WR going for what should have been a back of the endzone catch against a corner who had what 4 or 5 inches on him is a bad match up. The execution was also poor. Hindsight is what it is...but in that situation even if you ignore the clock and the score...to also ignore the way your QB has been playing as well as the previous turnovers (vs CGY) in the redzone it just makes the call even worse.

Not going to argue with that, but at that point of the game if we choose to be aggressive I am ok with it too. It turned out badly, but could have been the nail in the coffin making it garbage time if it works. I am OK with the play call at that time of the game, but the QB need to launch it thru the back of the end zone if the guy is not wide open all by himself. That's where i have the problem with the play. Try it out on 1st down, if the play is not there fine. We didn't need yardage so have a look at salting it away. Streveler needed to have more cognizance of the situation and the OC needs to make him more aware of the in game situational result he is looking for. The problem I have is not with the play call, it is with the players lack of situational awareness and overall execution. If Strev drops back sees that his man is not open and launches it into the 3rd row, we are hailing him as savvy and Hogan as smart for taking a look at maybe salting it away.

but also have to consider circumstance...down and distance...position...I agree....we have to be more ballsy (said it many times myself) but also do it at appropriate/opportune times....that really was neither....and going up 2 scores guaranteed with time left on clock...was the better move in that particular game....opening quarter?.....sure....Hogan is out of his league right now, and then vilifying a player on top of it...bad look...especially when Osh's Mantra is to not criticize a player even when warranted...tho he also never owns up to making a wrong call either...so this incident isnt really that shocking and may be indicative that things all around are not as tight as they were, or as some like to believe, and maybe some frustrations are bubbling out

We could easily have played very conservatively as well, and maybe should have, but if you are going to go out and continue through and play then you see what the defence gives you and play from there.

well the choosen receiver too for that call may have also been an issue...still though with leagues best RB would it not been better to take 2 runs at it and depending how close u were on 3rd down gamble?.....or just kick the 3 and nake it a 2 score game?.... All throughout a game a defence will present looks that can be exploited...that being said they also are playing the game too and can make a play...and the DB there made a solid play....and had a size mismatch to boot...

I tend to agree cuz ppl ***** when they don’t go for it and kick the fg always. I mean it’s kinda lose lose all the time.