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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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4 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

The only part I hated about Discovery was the whole Klingon part.  I don't like how they look, how they speak (sounds like they're talking with cotton in their mouths), the fact that they're race is supposed to be based on honor, or that they aren't following canon.

I do agree that they're not focusing enough on the space exploration part of it, but I still thought it was good.

I think the season was uneven.  But Im giving them the benefit of the doubt because they changed showrunners/executive producers so late in the process.  The Klingon storyline, war story, look of the Klingons, design of the ship, design of the uniforms etc was all done by Fuller.  then he left.  So the current creative team inherited a work that was not their own.
 

And I think these producers are more traditional.  When you look at other known aliens that were featured, like the Andorians and Tellerites, they are very traditional looking with minor changes that are mostly to make them better as a result of better make-up effects.  Certainly not the large departure that the Klingon design showed.  Although, every new film/tv show adjusted the design of the Klingons so it doesnt really matter to me.

Fuller had also intended to go to the Mirror universe much sooner.  And he had no "Enterprise" showing up at the end.  So the new producers are taking it in their own direction and Ill give the uneven writing a pass.  Next season though, they have to hit a home run.

I do think its the best first season of Trek since TOS.  The acting, production design etc is tremendous.

25 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think the season was uneven.  But Im giving them the benefit of the doubt because they changed showrunners/executive producers so late in the process.  The Klingon storyline, war story, look of the Klingons, design of the ship, design of the uniforms etc was all done by Fuller.  then he left.  So the current creative team inherited a work that was not their own.
 

And I think these producers are more traditional.  When you look at other known aliens that were featured, like the Andorians and Tellerites, they are very traditional looking with minor changes that are mostly to make them better as a result of better make-up effects.  Certainly not the large departure that the Klingon design showed.  Although, every new film/tv show adjusted the design of the Klingons so it doesnt really matter to me.

Fuller had also intended to go to the Mirror universe much sooner.  And he had no "Enterprise" showing up at the end.  So the new producers are taking it in their own direction and Ill give the uneven writing a pass.  Next season though, they have to hit a home run.

I do think its the best first season of Trek since TOS.  The acting, production design etc is tremendous.

I don't mind small adjustments, but the Klingons looked revamped completely.  And I know the whole "honor" with Klingons was somewhat put on, as only Worf was truly honorable and took it to the next level.  But still.  They almost acted like a bunch of backstabbing thieves.  Just didn't feel Klingon to me.  Just my opinion.

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8 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

I don't mind small adjustments, but the Klingons looked revamped completely.  And I know the whole "honor" with Klingons was somewhat put on, as only Worf was truly honorable and took it to the next level.  But still.  They almost acted like a bunch of backstabbing thieves.  Just didn't feel Klingon to me.  Just my opinion.

I think something changed significantly in the story.  I agree.  I didnt mind the idea of the Klingons as they started out in Discovery but the end result should have been a show of honour that ended the war and led to the 24 houses embracing (or seemingly) the honor of Kahless.  That would set up the Klingons as we know them through TOS where they were organized but still dicks into TNG where they played up the honor but many werent honorable at all.

But they said Ash and L'Rell will be in next season so maybe we'll get more of the transition.

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CBS head Les Moonves revealed some info:

CBS streaming (All Access and Showtime) viewers skewers 20 years younger than CBS network.  Average age of 38.

Combined subs are 5 million.

On pace to meet or exceed their goal of 8 million subs by 2020

CBSAA subs doubled from one year ago and January 2018 was the biggest month ever (I'd suspect from Trek fans pouring back in after the break)

Called Discovery a run away success.

7 hours ago, Logan007 said:

The only part I hated about Discovery was the whole Klingon part.  I don't like how they look, how they speak (sounds like they're talking with cotton in their mouths), the fact that they're race is supposed to be based on honor, or that they aren't following canon.

I do agree that they're not focusing enough on the space exploration part of it, but I still thought it was good.

Don't like the Klingons either. But the writing & effects are so much better than on previous series. Just check out Voyager for that on Space. 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Don't like the Klingons either. But the writing & effects are so much better than on previous series. Just check out Voyager for that on Space. 

Man, i just dont get the hate for the fx in voyager or even ds9.

5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Man, i just dont get the hate for the fx in voyager or even ds9.

Janeway is not a likeable character. She claims to follow the Prime Directive & wants to get her crew home. Yet she ordered them to waste time, fuel & resources to  explore when it should only have been about getting them home asap. She used the PD for purposes that suited her. She would pit one side in a dispute against the other for her convenience. Some of the characters like Neelix were just so damned annoying. I liked Enterprise a lot better than Voyager which is my least favourite Trek series. 

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4 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Janeway is not a likeable character. She claims to follow the Prime Directive & wants to get her crew home. Yet she orders them to waste time, fuel & resources to  explore when it should only be about getting them home asap. She used the PD for her own purposes that suited her. She would pit one side in a dispute against the other to suit her. Some of the characters like Neelix were just so damned annoying. I liked Enterprise a lot better than Voyager which is my least favourite Trek series. 

Yeah but what about the fx?

8 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Yeah but what about the fx?

For it's time it was fine. Discovery is better because of technological improvements. We're talking 20 years so I don't understand why you ask? 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

For it's time it was fine. Discovery is better because of technological improvements. We're talking 20 years so I don't understand why you ask? 

Its what we were talking about!!!

5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Man, i just dont get the hate for the fx in voyager or even ds9.

 

2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Its what we were talking about!!!

 

No. I have no idea what you're talking about.  You aren't making any sense. 

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FX in Voy and DS9 were great for that time. In fact really really good. DS9 had tons of space battles.  

As part of an upcoming documentary about DS9 they remastered a brief clip to show how good it could be in high def. the models and cgi elements were all made at the time with way more detail then could be seen.  DS9 in HD would be awesome. 

As  for Discovery I just wish they’d render the space scenes brighter without a blue tinge to everything. 

SF27, you had said:

On 2/16/2018 at 4:34 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

Don't like the Klingons either. But the writing & effects are so much better than on previous series. Just check out Voyager for that on Space. 

Then Frosty said:

On 2/16/2018 at 6:15 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Man, i just dont get the hate for the fx in voyager or even ds9.

Then you started talking about Janeway and the story.

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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Looks like it always has.

Some differences but looks like a modern update. I like it (and I hate Disxocery, the ship not the show)

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Some differences but looks like a modern update. I like it (and I hate Disxocery, the ship not the show)

How can a starship like Discovery be more advanced than the Enterprise?

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7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

How can a starship like Discovery be more advanced than the Enterprise?

USS Discovery is newer than USS Enterprise and contains an experimental spore drive.

8 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

USS Discovery is newer than USS Enterprise and contains an experimental spore drive.

I thought it was the other way around.  In ST cannon the Enterprise was always the flagship of the Federation. Especially in Kirk's time. 

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Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

I thought it was the other way around.  In ST cannon the Enterprise was always the flagship of the Federation. Especially in Kirk's time. 

Enterprise is the more respected ship. It’s a heavy battle cruiser.  Discovery is a science vessel.  They even made a remark in season one that if Tilly wants to be captain she should try to get onto a constitution class ship (like enterprise). 

Just now, The Unknown Poster said:

Enterprise is the more respected ship. It’s a heavy battle cruiser.  Discovery is a science vessel.  They even made a remark in season one that if Tilly wants to be captain she should try to get onto a constitution class ship (like enterprise). 

Missed that comment. LOL. 

Well it was offline to me when i checked it. Guess they fixed the problem.

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