Booch

YOU OF all people who diss people on their views as saying its their personal opinion...and then you go say that statement??....wow....And J.Jones has already been successful in the league for several yrs....Earned his chops in 2022...had great season in 2023...got hurt part way in season in 2024...and was a ratio victim when Judge was signed...nice special teams tackles...7 sacks one yr...2 time grey cup champ...3 yrs younger...better measurables....better tackler....just better yeah.....As soon as T.Jones was signed to a 2 yr deal...he was a lock...we couldhave had James West and Ty Jones clones in camp....and both would have took a back seat in Oshland T.Jones is average....J.Jones is not....and not **** you can have only so many Americans...tell us something we dont know...Wilson offers more than T.Jones if he can stay healthy...Prob more than J.Jones too but there's that big if...If one could be removed to give us our best 3 outta Wilson..Ayer..T.Jones and J.Jones it's T .Jones And he was invisible last game, and yeah at times he may seem to "be around the ball" in what context tho.?..its after yards are gained...in help clean up mode...or when teams went after him....he is lost in space...and doesnt range well lateral to attack and shut down a play for a loss or minimal yards... All the grief Wilson gets in the first 2 games he has been the best linebacker....and offensive schemes against us have been away from him...T.Jones got a buttload of tackles the one game....but there was a reason he did too.....

Wheatfall

Guys wanna play tho...also an opp to perform and up their dollars...careers are short and you can't do that without playing

The injury he got...his age...when it happened last yr and the requirements of his position with stop...go...burst...cuts....I have a hard time seeing him being worth it now...if he even ready yet.....and if he has to be wearing a brace to compensate for it for first while....good luck with that....tough choice to make the hang em up decision....but he should have signed a one day deal...retired here and slid into the organization in some capacity Wish him well in the attempt and grabbing some last dollars....but it prob gonna tarnish peoples last memories of his ability on field

yup....He may say no to that...as he knows he can play and then it's up to Osh as to what and who in "his opinion" is the better asset..now...and moving forward....and we all know how that will go As soon as T.Jones was signed to a 2 yr deal it was basically cemented that he was then strting MLB this yr regardless of what transpired in camp...That's his way of doing things and how we got ourselves into the depth issues and the near non-existent back-up plan or guys capable or trusted to step in when needed...and this yr....nothings changed

if we tried to PR him he's have been gone in a heartbeat and starting somewhere else

Hate for him to ask for his release....Play me or set me free....

Logical works just fine yup.....not so much when we have an illogical HC tho.... If I was coaching I'd swap out T. Jones for J.Jones this game and use a lot of Ayers and Wilson...for all Wilson's bad points (age/abilty to stay healthy) he still is a great sideline to sideline LB and posses pursuit....I can see Ford making T.Jones look silly in space and him not being able to track him down with angles or just plain sprint to the sideline Healthy and available Wilson is still good, and I think he has played better over all than Jones too....he can do more anyway He should be a SAM or HB....He's so good....Bonds too was gonna mention in other thread...guy is legit good as well...and is super smart/aware out there...

He plays more self preservation style now...so they need to customize a lot of stuff for a cerebral style now...he definitely doesn't get the ball out as fast as Strev either...its out of his hands lightning quick...once he gets more reps and a comfort level with the system and his receivers hes gonna be very effective... Cooley runs with speed and violence in traffic...and can still side step guys...he is definitely gonna pop some long runs out of the scrum if he gets more opportunities

You have all your teeth and didn't marry your cousin so don't be hard on yourself lol

J.Jones would be the active linebacker to us in a quasi spy scheme...Thinking of T.Jones chasing around after Ford already has given me nightmares I dont believe last yr we really did a spy per say did we?

ZC has picked up a bad habit of when getting panicked or pressure starts to get a lil chaotic of just chucking it.....and not away but into trouble....and or for picks And seeing as he is reluctant to run....and reams know it they put the pressure on. He used to able to navigate the pocket more and buy time without running, but last 2 yrs he has seemed to have lost that knack..

yeah Masoli looked capable and not like he needed a walker....

Bryant got beat bad...maybe once...and yeah that's a maybe...and obviously you don't understand how an oline works...starting from center...he fucks up...it makes issues for the guys outside of him...whether u belive that or not As for WJ...that bc olineman is a turd...When WJ went up for a pass knockdown on the td the olineman tried to lift him higher to toss him...and couldn't and WJ threw him to the ground...that's from some players mouths btw...not my "opinion " and when I went to the rewatch you can see the oline guy attempt it...and it cut away...but u see WJ toss him down...and he didnt like it and started the scrum I hopefully will get a peak at the all 24 but I doubt WJ gets any discipline for that

What did I make up? And yes Osh was "influenced" to sit Willy and go with Nichols...if that's what you referring to I don't think Osh evaluates everything he should at times with some players...what he values sometimes doesn't make the player better...with the majority of the gripes I have it's all about skill...skillset...upside..and actual ability...there are currently probably 5 spots i can think of on this roster where we could be so much better and it's with guys in house...but we don't get to see it..and prob 2 or 3 holdovers we could have got rid of and been no worse for wear and likely better and have possible upside too....but around here in a lot of instances...membership has it's privileges...so to say

Yup...I rewatched and the line wasn't an issue like some make it out to be...it was more a ZC issue..the ones that were apparent last yr already And that's the indicator in a player...especially at QB that they have or are in regression... Exactly what I touched on...the fact to we resigned him site unseen for 2026 as well was a bone head move His scripted first drive was good...after...hit and miss and the hits were not elite qb style hitting And we are saddled with Osh who will stick with a vet/fav/bias as long as they not in a wheel chair...and that's not good either

That was my biggest fear haha

Appears that way...don't like change...old man syndrome hahaha I hope each game Strev gets some series and or extended reps after short yardage...I think we gonna need him...and need him sharp

The motion we use with our lineman now also seemed to mess him up...he was seeing ghosts i think...Strev didnt have issue with that

I think ZC also now is a bit skittish mentally and spooks too easily now...well since 2023 when he got popped in that edm game...his slide started after he got back from that and hes never looked the same..well not consistently or sustainably

Yup...he also seeks and destroys in second level...Dobson was lost Bryant wasn't bad at all..sure he had a couple moments but that will happen...especially when the guard is compensating for a center...it radiates out...if say a guard had cheated over and isn't where the tackle expected him to be and looks to have been beaten inside expecting help from guard...well it looks bad for tackle but not necessarily so I think he meant Nichols for Willy and that's accurate. Osh gets too attached to certain guys...like a bad stock trader...don't fall in love with a stock and know when to sell...osh needs to do that with players And I truly don't think he is the best evaluator of talent sometimes...values some characteristics at times over talent or usefulness

Yeah...that's pretty much it...on the Holm int i believe..Lawson had penetration and vaughters came thru and drilled masoli...Thomas got engaged and thrown to the turf...one of many instances...he serves zero effectiveness out there...1...maybe 2 plays a game is not optimal...that's being generous too..

Finished re-watch.. the oline was fine...B.C has a real good dline and a real good rotation...we lost a few battles but they did fine...and will be better as they get more used to their multiple blocking schemes we use...we are very active on oline this yr Or do what Streveler did and throw a ball in dirt and not jeopardize a turnover in our own end Yeah...we got beat a few times...that happens but overall they played fine Zc should have ate it or threw in stands...that's a rookie error he made

The pressures thst lead to the int's was direct result of Lawson...not thomas

Yeah he full of crap...Lawson sliced thru 2 guys...with a combo of tech and power 3 quarters in...not sure the oline hate...they were fine...a few miscues but that's normal My thoughts are they are all getting used to their new blocking schemes..we doing a tonne of guard and tackle pulls to the opposite side of line...some plays have both moving in tandem...lots of active lineman blocking schemes...like a lot! ...I also think ZC needs to get used to it as it's either confusing to him and hes panicking for no reason or he just not in sync with it We not just dropping guys back in their normal way...or pushing straight forward with traps and tandem on runs... Strev was very comfortable with it tho