Booch

Gotta love John Facenda...just need to hear 2 words from that voice and you think football

Kyle doesn't decide the roster...or PR...Osh does....so if there nobody to add to roster...that's on Osh...we had lots of guys to choose from in camp...its who was kept and what the makeup of the roster...pr...that's the issue....Osh created both

Allen isnt soley a safety...so yeah he can play elsewhere Woodbey could play any linebacker spot really....sam or safety Thomas can be replaced by Cobb..Bailey...Vibert...Scmeck even He a better SAM too than who we employ..

Was it a turn around? Not really...the issues at hand were not fixed...and in end was the demise again...and it's same thing going on again this yr...slack should be gone now Even easier than if u only have to.blow up a third of it...so why it not done?

Baileu and WOLI would offer more on roster than Corcoran...Stearns or Magic Feet tho

Thing is....people will look at it as yeah we got to 5 cups and tink thats success....if failing at the the main ultimate goal is success....then I dunno Even ;ast yr...yeah but we started out 2-6...and turned it around...not really....didnt change a thing and we caught a bit of lightening in a bottle and rattled off some wins and glossed over what ailed us....poor roster...no depth and what depth we had not integrating them and when the big games came....well we were unprepared....had to play hurt guys to go with the inferior ones we figured were good enough....and we are headed right down that same path again at break neck speed...with a bunch of same guys who are even worse than last yr and if not for an act of god we would have had to play 3 gaes and win em all to get the cup...we couldnt do that with only 2 games....anuone thinking we could have ran the table is living in a state of delusion with how we went about the playoffs last yr...and if ZC gad got hurt in WSF or WF.....good luck with that We had openings at corner...safety....end....LB's...guard....receiver...and a couple spots we should have seriously looked to get better at...SAM...Center...DT/NOSE....Punter....BUT as per usual we just filled it with incumbents...retreads from elsewhere...and guys not food enough to make our roster from last yr....and still not good enough....we really didnt even consider change in a multitude of spots so really TC was just a exercise in nothing....nobody new....nobody younger and compound it with continued poor coaching...prep...and rostering....a vet laden team like ours should never come out with the duds we have ...so is it coaching...talent....attitude/dissention in ranks....likelu all 3 by my estimate...to me that spells danger and serious change needed....either ultimatum and or threats from above....or stumble thri this yr and do a purge next.....cause if we dont....be same ol same ol Sad part is this is Grey Cup yr and we should have went scorched earth with signings and attitude and cutting dead weight....but nope

as is Baileys and Woli's

Eventually tho....guys wanna play....and are not happy not yup...he is the problem ya buts and all not shocked...expected this same ol same ol lineup and the addition of another redundant ST only guy...ho will get minimal reps at that...not even the best ST option , and not see the light of day for any defensive reps....and if he does boy are we in trouble and severely hemorrhaging in legit talent Opportunity to add a couple guys if for anything just to gauge what the difference is...and we fail again...cause basically Osh is brain dead and wants to seem like he the wisest guy in the league and plays his bias over talent or best roster WE have had more poor/questionable games this yr really than good ones...yet we roll status quo....pathetic I hate to say this as I never widh on us losing but I hope we get tight spanked again...and next week too....only way we gonna see changes...brutal all around his rope doesnt deserve to be long anymore...he has used up his past good will wih success...years agi....from Manageent...he should have zero rope

yup.....if we go 3 national olineman we only need 1 guy any given snap on defence

Loony toonz does throw a good ball tho all things considered

Service fee if anything

Yeah and was in my fantasy lol

Scheme was more part of that...Griffin has been solid as can be for 2 yrs...u gonna use 1 game where whole defence looked like garbage and call a guy being owned? There is a ratio?? Wow....news flash...good thing you post here as nobody would be privy to that insider tidbit...phew He could start for Bridges...Kramdi...Parker..and shift Parker....very easily...so no issue there And now you make a claim a guy is dumb as rocks? Based on? Maybe our coaching staff is too...from lot what we seen of late that's not a stretch

Does ZC make that play...not anymore...Likely sacked...or rushes a pic

Sign of a smart coach...doing whats best for the "team"

If I was Jones id not agree to be "hurt" so we would have to either roster him...ask him to join PR (which i sure he'd say no thanks to)...or just release him...cause I sure he wants to play but also not be a distraction talking bout it here. He'd be picked up in a heartbeat and in some teams lineup immediately....

and we didnt sign Richards because??...former 1st overall...with starter experience...I sure he wouldnt hurt our depth guess they tired of getting none answers and Osh's typical b.s.....so why bother?? I hopefor a win....always do...expecting a loss tho in this....and prob 1...if not 2stupid roster moves, when we have the opportunity to actually add some guys who could give us a spark/lift....maybe Osh will wow us with his roster....not!!

could be argued the entire defence

yup...and now is this directed to him to do?...if not a free lane to play contain...and look for the knockdown and rely on this scheme of us having 25 db types out there?...most times playing way too soft and passive aggressive?....I think it more that...Just look at the Grey Cup...he was basically free'd up to pay traditional end and had best game of his life....that ability is there but obviously something we are trying to do is just not translating for our ends...End is one the easiest roles to fill in CFL ....and some his frustration penalties this yr is I bet a direct result of...his frustration with how we are doing things....WJ isnt a selfish idiot....and he isnt in athletic decline, or lacks technical skills...Thats reserved for several other of the dead weight we carry but poor on retention...and those guys came from other scouting networks we no longer employ...Sadly there was a buttload of free agent dline guys we could have targeted this off-seson in FA but shoose not to, cause we had Jake..Korn..Schmeck...so we good....another short sighted move of brain deadness....didnt even try to get better...status quo cause we won a cup in 2019 and 2021...eons ago

yup...tho stats dont tell the whole story on the dline Garbutt with 9 tackles and 1 sac...Fox with 9 tackles and no sacs.....is better than Thomas with 2 tackles...zero sacks....and just awful play...Korn with 3 tackles...zero sacks....WJ with 8 tackles...1 sac..Adams with 5 tackles and 1 sac ...Vaughter has 13...no sacs and does get a lot of heat and disruption at times....but justifying their release as "dont do squat" doesn't compute.....Both guys in Hammer are disruptive and get pressures too...and are in a rotation...legit one so likely less snaps too They also both have motors and from what I see when watching don't take plays off.....to say we better without them is foolish...and even tho Woli is hurt....wasnt going into camp so not like we let him go cause we knew something...we didnt....but his smarts...and trust with ZC would be a lot better roster option than Corcorran....Novack..Korn and even Thomas and could have been that super sub on offence who knows all the positions and would provide leadership (which we lacking) and grit...and not like we would have had to break bank to keep him either...he would have stayed on his current deal he had...another brain dead stupid move...who was the main voice behind it who knows...but was dumb none the less Our failures and issues we incurring are all self inflicted...anyone thinking or saying opposite isnt paying attention...or just plain has no clue

along wiyh the rest of the line...for several yrs....scheme ...coaching and supporting cast perhaps....and it is very easy to neutralize and scheme away from players on a dline when they have have inferior guys playing on it....A guys lack of production isnt necessarily related to ability....but scheme and play call....where we seem to really suck....compounded by half the dline rotation basically sucking....and not just this year...since we punted away Jeffcoat and never replaced our last true interior guys....and or refuse to give who we brought in majority of reps to actually get acclimated...in a groove and feet under them...we continually stagnate and prevent player development here...and not just on dline

Walters tho basically does draft work.. he not out bird dogging...but also we will never know if anyone is better cause they don't get played either...so who knows...and 4 reps in a game won't help...or languishing at practice time...practice now does nothing to earn a spot...not how they ran now We caught in a chicken and egg thing here....is it inadequate scouting and management...or is it poor coaching? Do you upset the apple cart by purging g.m...with it all scouting and support and risk having the front end and financial aspects go way down hill...only to find out the same things occur at team level? And truthfully that's what would happen Or do u do as what historically most teams do and work at player level or coach first...purge the guys who havnt gotten it done for yrs now and keep the younger upside and actually useful vets...or remove the HC who has been at the helm and created the game day roster...philosophies...etc? Generally the second scenario is the smarter and right one...and where we should be looking regardless of the yeah buts. The only yeah buts that matter is the 3 recent flops...and 3 consecutive seasons of cracks...eroding play...coaching...talent..and reluctance to do anything about it at the on field level Also...good luck getting a new G.M worth piss to come here if u handcuff him and say job is yours...but u have to keep everything as is below u...being coaches...players...game philosophies...not gonna happen and welcome to shitsville again if u do that...they gonna want their own people... If change is needed and gonna happen...and it definitely needs to be...its gonna and gotta be at the coaching...and player level first True...very true...and even then it was because there was an actual open job available...he didnt push out a vet or tenured player When is the last time with this staff have we had a T.C cut where we sent a vet who been here a while packing for a new guy? Where fans were wow? Happens a lot elsewhere...but I'll tell u how many times here....zero...that i can think of of any relevance

yeah....putting him back in after it was put back in place...who effin does that?

Even since last yr Griffin should have been the actual starter in possibly 2 positions...if not 3.....but he gets relegated to rotation behind the teacher's pets/choices....

ALSO...WE dont need Korn or Thomas on roster...thats also the issue....wasted roster spots..Lawson is fine...Kramdi can y=take reps...and hey here's a thought...start integrating Shay and Smith for reps too....cant develop with no play....but that makes sense......