Booch

Then good for us...but cant see him doing anything amazing....and of he does....is it a one off or his actually skill?....but we need bigger receievers with a different skill set for ZC to be succesful I guess tho Strev has familiarity with him, but Strev never gets reps so thats irrelevant too

demski

do we reclaim first? Keys to win....coaching do your job...be it player usage...adjustments...coaching with some brass balls , utilizing rules afforded to you....yanking guys who have turned up the suck....do your damn job Let the defence loose upfront with your best athletes and bring the heat BO....Nuff said as our receivers are not gonna be a difference maker unless 2015 ZC shows up

Gonna have to ride BO until the wheels fall off tonight...That offensive group of receivers will strike no fear in anyione and it will be easy for stamps to basically eliminate our 2 best threats...and ZC cant be his hit or miss self...he needs to be ZC circa 2019-early 2022 or be sat down and or spelled off for multiple series a game and get Strev more acclimated.... And seeing we have 3 ends...real ends....and a more than capable Adams and Lawson we need to see them let loose...attacking and in heavy rotation...if Jake never saw the field we would look better than we have in yrs

as I been saying for yrs and what many fail to actually see...our management of players...and extended to roster is butt ugly horrible...we waste guys talents...fain to recognize talent and usefulness and continue to try and make sub par guys a thing...mostly based on Osh's bias'....does he have this boner for slug Canadians...is it a Canadian Pride thing about less than stellar athletes trying to prove a point he's some guru/wizard??...who knows what it is but needs to stop...I also think his ability to recognize talent is weak and he values too many intangibles that dont translate on feild... he would have stayed...but he knew we wouldnt pony up....we didnt have to beat what Hammy offered...but just be in ball park.... Weak/poor moves rarely do....

Thats how osh operates....he rarely will give a new guy...even if they are better a chance.....and good luck un-seating a vet here....prob why we don't seem to be as active in FA of late...guys wanna play...not play second fiddle to teacher's pet yup...part of our issue is Walter's allows Osh too much say....hence we continue rolling it back with inferior guys each yr...and each yr its worse and worse until a total overhaul is gonna be needed....and could be next yr the way things look so far this yr i know how....spin it as a joke...failure...flop...and sadly...predictable...encompasses pretty much everything about it As soon as we re-upped Thomas and T.Jones well before FA I knew right away it would be status quo....same ol same ol...guys pencilled in before camp even started and a uphill impossible battle for any new player to unseat amyone add Allen....Woodbey...J.Jones...Move Parker up to corner...Griffin to SAM...keep Person on now....add Bailey for the least useful Canadian on roster (or for Sheehan and let Sergio do all 3 jobs) and we in business. Not even giving them a look when it's apparent we aren't at our best is ridiculous.... Gotta mainyain 3 canadians on oline and let Wallace grow into the spot....3 import oline hampers us and the net value of doing it isnt a real positive or makes us better We also need to figure out receiver cause as it stands...we are bad bad bad and a longer term injury to one of Wheatfall or Demski and we are major hooped we wouldnt have...we woulda drafted ST guys....and if we did....both prob would have never amounted to much as they wouldnt play...or they would have jammed outta town after rookie deal expired

Hopefully Osh is taking notes in how to have some balls and set a tone and show faith and trust in your offence and defence....went for it on 3rd and goal...and a quick turn around on a interception and all of sudden up 18-4 early in game...We would have kicked a FG....Reason why Dinwiddie schools him in the Grey Cups....stop being a panty waist already

nah....once he is back to a good yr post surgery to have his running game back to what it was...and it will be...and reps reps reps with offence seeing the things he needs to see live...I see much higher ceiling yet not necessarily....he will cater or try to add/retain players the HC wants...I think issue here is Walter's listens too much to Osh and doesnt reign him in with his wants and asks... Walters and his staff have brought guys in and many have looked good...and yes it's pre-seson but still....many vets kept have looked bad...or didn't even participate but were basically handed a spot and age and athleticism and technical skill too has to be in the player evaluation, as well as projecting 1..2 yrs down road where they could be...we fail in that regard Tail wags the dog to much here...needs to change so did the marine..Jakee...Kolo...Scmeck...Korn....amoung others....and some guys were kept on PR ...some almost 2 yrs and didnt get a snap....means not a hell of a lot worst in league and it not even close he is run of mill average...and will never be a game changer...I could go down south and scrounge several guys up that would be very effective moreso than him....he'll prob catch 4 or 5 balls and people will think wow...we got a winner here....but any pro should catch a ball thrown to him at this level for most part...it's what they do with it...and how they effect room for others...havnt seen him show anything in his 2 yrs here to think he's worth 2 yrs of being here he'd say similar of any receiver and really....dont care what he thiks...doesnt mean success and wins....see how he raves when its live fire and not skelly

Strev can so get ball out lightning fast and run tempo...ZC can't no more

ZC needs game breakers and guys who can win battles and have big catch radius now...we have Clercius who is dependable and can battle...Demski who can be a game breaker when not beat up and having to win contested catches in traffic...and wheatfall who can be real effective...with help...hes still leaning and with the other crap we have..sterns and now Case...he not gonna get a lot of help...nor are those 2 guys gonna elevate ZC game But a Geno Lewis...Rhymes...Coxie..Dunbar...to name a few would have gave us and ZC a target he could utilize and make us better than scrap heaping White and Sterns...and just not using Mitchel for whatever reason they have...some guys just don't shine unless yhe lights are on...and we are the worst organization in league with giving fresh blood chances...and it's killing us

Yeah...originally I don't think the mental stuff was there...it will be now tho mind you I have a feeling he won't be seen until labor dayish now You can come back like he did but sometimes even tho "healed" it takes a good year once back to playing to get full range of motion...lose the tight feeling...build the neighboring muscles and stuff up...and was obvious he wasn't there Id be shocked to see him resemble what he was pre injury this yr...he may be done for yr even...which makes it more imperative that they gave Mitchell the shot now as he showed he can be a game breaker...we know what Case is...Sterns with lighter skin..less experience and likely less upside...parking his arse on the PR for a few more weeks would have made zero difference for his development...Mitchell needs the chance to show what he has...or we cut bait and bring some guys in

finally ...we better not see any jake on the edge now....and yeah he better get a solid rotation....Like to see 3 ends and one of Lawson/Adams too....that could really free up some lanes for pressure....finally we have a true speed rush guy who also can over power guys Case....not shocked and a big meh...we can do so much better but we choose to just stay status quo Interested too in what Vpool brings at tackle yeah...Scoen isnt a write off....but yr one...not even a yr of recovery for a WR is just a real gamble....and even with no hiccups prob would have taken 2/3rds of the yr to truly get his mojo back...but we rushed him into 1A receiver slot and I think we got him hurt...I think he may miss weeks...and would be wise to allow him that...we really need to bring someone else in...2 guys really....and or let Mitchel get his shot in a game or 2....and if he doesnt light it up...cut bait...Also Sterns and Case are not gonna bring us to the promised land yeah...as I figured...coming off a injury similar to Strev personally...and then a second acl rebuild 2 yrs later as soon as I saw him land and his reaction...I knew he was gonna be out a while...if not for majority of the rest of yr...and why I said right from his signing that was a huge risk

he did take coverage away from others tho to allow then to thrive,,,so that has to factor in as well.....and he made a lot of huge key catches that were part of our success too....would love to see what he could have done over a full 18 games and I think that was well worth the cost of signing We also could have fit him in the SMS as well if we wanted, multiple ways to have done it and him being here makes us a better team and he is the type of guy who ZC needs as he will more times than not pull in those poor passes that are more common now Banking on a receiver coming off ACL reconstruction....In the first yr back was poor judgement and foresight anyway you slice it

yes....in addition to what I said....Also Dinwiddie will pull a guy in a game for poor play...stupidity.....coaches before him too...Mathews...amoung others

cause we didnt have forward thinking....a transition plan in place for any position and were to clingy to older vets.....who had no more upside, and were in decline.... but they sign...and use new blood...arent afraid to play/start rookies and the best talent available to them...and will cut a vet for a new guy....thats why....enough said 😁

as we dismissed another slug each those yrs.... Hard to raise the floor as well when your floor is littered with ST only guys....and then you bring in a bunch of guys who are aged...coming off injury, or weren't good enough elsewhere......and banking on some of your core guys coming back who arent good enough....for a couple yrs now and a few getting long in the tooth who would benefit from solid depth who can play....key word....play to augment them....our depth over all is a sad state of affairs

curious o see the depth chart....but am certain there wont be any optimizing of anything or addition of a different body...Other than it appears to be Case whbich really.....is a big whooptydo...May as well just went with Cobb and loaded up the import spot from no bryant and schoen on defence with Person and J.Jones to see how that worked for us I have zero faith in Osh doing anything outside what he's done so far this yr Brutal....and the one guy on it who would have made the biggest impact....isnt on roster (J.Jones).....make that make sense somebody for a potential Gray Cup at home appearance....what a failure and disappointment of an off-season.....

you would think they would add say and End....or get Jones on Roster in Bryants spot....6 Canadians again on offensive side of ball so only 1 needed on defence for any given snap....So be it Lotsa Lawson....and I'd have Griffin at SAM so he on the field all the time and rotate Kramdi in like Griffin did....or use Kramdi at SAM for snaps and Have griffin do his usual thing to spell off Lawson You'd think too seeing how we need ways to get pressure on defence they would add Bailey for Weitz too, and really keep our front guys fresh and able to cut loose...but all that would make too much sense Osh prob will dress Lofton as an extra olineman...or Cooley who will see prob zero reps on offence with Brady and Peterson already on roster and just waste a DA with yes...I will say it...poor roster management

This is a real thing.....and as close and tight as teams/media and the like will say the room and culture is....and players will say it publicly also as to not rock the boat....there are still exclusive groups who do talk amoungst themselves and question the why's and how's and see when a certain player gets played over a better player....it's a normal thing....it also has to do with earning their dollars...or chance to earn more dollars....its a show me sport and how you get your pay....and careers are short Lotsa people will say "yeah but nobody picked up this rookie...or that rookie we cut" but teams have time and money invested in their own recruits...and wont drop their guys for someone elses...thats how you eviscerate your scouting department....and also a good reason why Penn left here....worked his butt off and to watch slugs and plugs and lesser talent get the playtime as a coach's choice.....could have advanced up the ranks here but chose to do so with Goviea....Penn is a serious up and comer and a bummer of a guy to have lost

It does when you still work with many, and with a lot of young guys looking to land jobs up here...I also didnt mean to be rude but a lot of what I will divulge isnt opinion so sorry if came across as attacking.....but also once a player...always a player too....so you do get extra spilled tea on the inside stuff.... Cgy has had a lot of turnover actually......The elks just spent poorly....they robbed from peter to pay Paul so to speak hahahah.....i do know him very well actually....he did a total chamge tho from when first here to his H.C gig....I think he had some kind of life event that messed him up....or he just was an addict to power and became a right tool

Yeah Gavin was good...I remember at the time ol Taman didnt even wanna bring him to camp...said he would just be TC fodder....I gave him crap a couple yrs ago sporting a cut off Allouttes T-Shirt while working out hahaha

several people here know me....and I wont just reveal to anyone...especially someone of your ilk as from your post it's obvious the kind of person you are....cute post tho....funny too coming from a poster who likes to think his "opinion" is more legit than others just because he a sycophant...are You Osh??? 😉 and doesn't wanna believe it, or think other's opinion or comment holds no validity Who goes to a Golds gym north of the border...I dont even go there when training in California.....and you are saying disgruntled....I never said disgruntled....just the way it is, and why guys left.....And I train...and train with former and current players btw....and they also know my history and who/where i played for....I'm not just rando Joe fan....so yeah guys talk to me and I have never revealed a name here about inner workings and vibe...Tho have mentioned guys in other aspects....you can (players) talk candidly to people you trust...whether you believe it or not. You...and no offence so dont get your knickers in a knot believe this veil of secrecy and tight lipped aura of a room....sure it's true with media and fans, but not colleagues....current and former...and there's a reason no former player broke a barrier to you....you're just a fan who befriended them.....and thats all you were/are.....big difference

hahah.....no but he likely would help....you know Osh creams over vets and wont give a rookie a chance...so prob only way we get a guy on roster I see Gavin Walls often training...maybe he will give it a whirl hahaah

I agree....that being said...we could use him lol

I can attest that there has been/is a bit of issue in the room...in regards to some "decisions"....thats not conjecture or "my always right opinion as some claim" but from inhabitants in the room...or who were in the room.....I not gonna mention names as I wont break the players bond/code....but will just leave it at that....choose to believe it or not (thats not directed at you @Bigblue204 but the usual sycophants here) You not gonna hear about it...media has no clue and wont report on it, as they don't even ask the pertinent questions anyway and even if they did Osh would dance around it or spin it differently anyway...Half the stuff that comes out of his mouth shouldn't be taken as gospel anyway...and it's not he's "protecting" anyone...it's just who he is And yes I know for a fact that some guys left here and it wasn't a "we the bombers decided to move on)" as spun by media, but more a fed up thing...again....mock me...believe me...whatever some you all like to do but it is what it is And pretty sure if things go as they have past 3-4 yrs...you will see a real upheaval with players next yr....and we likely take a nice slide