Booch

That was a point I was trying to make as well in a different thread..a play may call for a timing throw to a spot on field..and if a receiver muffs his route..the qb ends up looking bad. Not sure if people know or are aware of how some routes are drawn up but vcd there are several benchmarks used on the field that a play is designed for..and sometimes the slightest of things can mess it all up... Just like too once a QB and a receiver have that mental connection then it's easier to throw a guy open or adlib on the play. The one long td to Demski was an example of it when Demski pushed his defender toward side line and made subtle shift down between hashes..that was not the intended design..but Nichols was in Demskis head space and seen what he was doing and threw it to a spot that only Demski could get to it..

Tougher for tackles...the first step and the angles and gap responsibilities are way different.. have to be a lot quicker and have more finesse and technical skills cause you cant get your mitts on a guy right off the snap

The line play is a fairly significant adjustment..especially with hand fighting and being used to a guy right on u..as apposed to that yard off..seems like an insignificant thing but its not

If eli dresses he will be in on short yardage..I sure he up to game speed and knows his position requirements now. Even in camp he showed why he was regarded as one of the top centers in the NCAA..just was a bit rusty and aerobically not where he should be..and also was his first time playing Canadian ball so had to learn the technique for that..

No loss..never even noticed him when dressed. Now that Kongbo is back this was inevitable

who dat??

I expect Speller will play, and if not start will be the 6th...it's not like he was knocked out of the game..he came in for short yardage and as well as the final drive Seeing as Rios apparently practiced he may be pulled off the 6 game if he already hasn't been...if him and Humes aren't able to go..then it's Mike Jones I would think

NO...cause Nichols has shown..repeatedly he can do more than check down....and push the ball vertically...any QB at the pro level can...or should be able to or they have no reason to be a pro He's shown it this year...had one bad game in Hamilton...and Lapo has now turtled....

BUT ....If we score 2 or more offensive touchdowns are we trending back upward? I would think that if you lead a league in TD's from start..to current point..and continue to do so...you must be in a positive trend???...or am I wrong

Aand still tops in the league 😁😁

Claybrooks isn't going anywhere next year...Only place I can see a new guy coming in is maybe T.O...If Khari keeps things in the right direction there I can't see them getting rid of him..why take a step forward then 2 backwards. I think the only way we are without Lapo next year is if Management gets rid of him in off-season...or he gets a too good to turn down NCAA opportunity...neither of which I can see happening

You said this has been happening in a lot of games...which I was responding to...Hamilton plays a similar defense to CGY..hence the similar offence philosophy

actually...Oshea was a hardnosed mean sob of a player who would do that actually...hahaha...so maybe his tendency to be very evasive Look at Simoni Lawrence last game vs B.C...Deliberately tried to make that injury to Reilly worse..total indicator that he is a dirty P.O.S and if you ask me eye in sky should have penalized that..he was literally trying to take him out

14 td passes in the first 5 games leads one to think otherwise

And the even more frustrating part it appears this is by design

Looking at some numbers...you can see the Lapo trend creeping in...when Nichols took over against Edm in 2015 he averaged 255 yards a game, on a not very good team where the defense was on the field a lot...taking time away from offence and that was a part year. 2016 he averaged 283 yards a game with 8 games at just under 300 yards or over(287/289/299/301/304/330/341/390) 2017 he averaged 283 yards a game with 8 games at just under 300 yards or over (282/319/319/331/358/364/371/390) 2018..well we all know what went on there..injured..coming back injured..good defense and averaged 216 yards a game and 2 games at just under 300 yards or over (291/358) 2019 is averaging 219 yards a game..darn good defense...really deep well rounded team with 1 game at just under 300 yards or over (295) Now do you see a trend here folks?..he is being put in a situation to not take an unnecessary chances..do enough to win and not turn the ball over..and 9 times out of 10 win the T.O.P battle...this is by design...not by lack of skill or talent.....a ball control offence...using a work horse in Harris (a bit too much for my liking mind you) and playing smart..most wins next to CGY over past 3 years seems to show it's a working formula...but not one of popular opinion All the while though since 2017 leading league in offensive points and having pretty much a 3:1 TD to INT ratio mind you..Impressive none the less....another thing of note you can almost see/sense Nichols wanting to..or about to loose his **** to the media with the constant questions/nagging about stats..or lack thereof despite the teams record...and who would blame him

That's how i see it too....and over the last 2 years has morphed into this again..I can see using the ball control offence...low risk..take shots when they are there...but c'mon man take the shots...from my seat in stadium you can clearly see they are there...but sooner or later guys are gonna loaf and not sell the deep routes...and who can blame them... you have to use "all" the weapons just to keep defense's honest, and the last couple games we havn't even really done that...and that's a recipe for failure. As a defensive guy, I would be using a linebacker to shadow/spy Harris and lurk in the weeds...watch Nichols first read and then bee-line to Harris...

I'VE been advocating for that for a couple years now...why I don't know...I honestly think that it's because Lapo has no kahonies and doesn't want any type of turn over...sure it's working kinda...but as we saw in WF last year if you can shut that down..then what. Why we don't pull guys away with any vertical push to allow for those crossing patterns to be generally a one on one match-up...a lot of times with a guy in trail position is just baffling...we have all the tools to run this type of system, yet avoid it like the plague. This would also open up more lanes and areas for Harris to work without 5-6 guys in the box or inside the sticks. To have a guy like Lucky, or Demski isolated with what would likely be a linebacker across the middle, while you use your big shot guy like Matthews..and now Lawler taking defenders (and the safety) away from the LOS with Woli running intermediate crossers and drags would be hard to stop with the threat of Harris in the backfield...pick your pinion basically...cheat on the guys like Lucky and Demski and you will have one of Matthews or Lawler freed up deep...defend against that with deep zone and safety over the top..HarriS, Lucky and Demski eat you up. Now factor in sets with Strev running the full package and that extra option/that he offers...good luck defending that....SAD part and fact of the matter is Nichols can make all the throws and run an offence like this, but isn't allowed to..and thats on the OC I remember when Nichols took over for Willy..we were dinking and dunking and and had no vertical threat at all...as soon as Matt stepped in we were immediately throwing deeper passes...pushing the ball...it was like night and day...so why things slowly changed is odd

What Harris said totally makes sense and is legit..coming from a background of producing game plans and involved in film break down I see the point in it. I guarantee that Nichols was to look for the one primary read and if wasnt there hit the check down..and if u go back and rewatch you will see a lot of the other reciever routes were set up to aid in this and be blockers..it was planned as such..and executed as planned. Cgy does sit generally in a 10-12 yard zone set up to jump and poach routes..as shown by their league leading 14 picks..so to beat them..or control them with t.o.p you dont play into it If that first read wasnt immediately available then throwing into that..with more chance of pass break ups..short drives or turn overs woulda been dumber than dumb. And agreeing with Harris also that t.o.p is just as important as points..because it's basically an extension of your defense..as the other team has no chance to score..there's nothing more frustrating for an offence to sit on sidelines and watch another team eat up 5..6 min drives and u can do nothing about it..and when u get your chance..come in out of sync and rythm and end up back on sidelines in a minute or less a lot of the time...there is a method to the Bombers madness..may not be pretty..fancy or exciting..but you cant argue with its success so far..

called a team win...each part picking the other up ...tho would like to see offence score a TD or 2...still won...just like games where defense gives up over 25 and the offence and or ST picks up the slack and scores more

Well he played as a corner in the CIS so he ov=obviously has an idea of coverage and has some ability to do it and safety is more a read and react type position anyways..you have good quickness..closing speed and ability to tackle..you will do fine

thats was my beef coming into this year as well...all hooks..curls...outs..no layered routes and slants to hit guys in stride...now is this Lapo's way of running his route selections and he doesn't incorporate this in his offence..or is it Nichols not wanting to throw those balls..who knows...but it is frustrating as we have seen this year..and years in past that he can hit guys in full stride

To be honest Kongbo has shown enough already to be slated as the starter at end while Jeffcoat recovers..and an import at safety while he is in would be a decent idea...when you have sets where Roh subs in for Kongbo you can toss out Hecht or Jones I hope we are working or grooming Exume at the safety spot...I think he has the makings to be very good there...

I disaagaree...I specifically watch for this...and that is false...not sure if it's Lapo's influence or lack of trust...or Nichols headspace in not believing in himself, or "afraid" to make an int but guys are open...a lot of times too guys are there to be lead and thrown to spots that they can get ball..but he doesn't pull the trigger Especially with Matthews Iv'e noticed...and Lucky...if we just tossed it up and led them through their route..or threw it to a spot....the completion was there

so true...good on teams...and to come in for certain situations...but in the long haul he's not a quality full-time starter...too many limitations in his game, and is not a sure tackler, someting that at safety you want/need