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The history of bad hire's was a rsult of how we were structured before...With Miller and Walter's (if retained) we not in a spot to worry thee Osh too much of a loyallist and can't find it in himself with ego to admit failure....so I am sure Jackson prob didnt have much say...that being said good thing he was here or it likely woud have been wayyyyyyyy worse...if thats even possible Some guys need seasoning and time....Maas as example....Younger...Buck....Some guys just dont have it...OC Guy...and he is smug and arrogant already which is a bad sign considering he has zero reason to be...Too much time under Osh rubberd off?...who knows There are some good options out there....but also time is of the essence or we will be shut out...again...No reason we couldnt have made a move...Gave Dinwiddie a HC/Ass G.M role here

Yup....Rourke us due for some playoff excellence and well...Harris.....nuff said....also I think Mace is as dumb at times if not worse than Osh can be

Dammit.....hahaha All jokes aside...if we want to give new blood a chance...like we did with Osh...he'd be a good choice Also has a better resume than Osh did..was a HC in university in Canada...as well as varied pro coaching positions...and respected and liked by players...and is known

we really should have made a statement the week following the playoff exit...id we dont make it the week following the Cup....We can expect more the same.....missing out on some quality coaching prospects....some for sure player exodus...the ones we dont wanna see exit...and a sad vet laden lineup with aged out guys...Osh fav's and loyalists and a team with minimal depth, and no desire to integrst new blood in...unless forced to with injury...hate to be a debbie downer but you can almost book it I will gladly eat crow....pile of used sweatsocks...whatever....but until proven otherwise....Can't see it...and havnt been far off the mark on the prediction i started drumming after the 2023 joke of a Grey Cup and season end

and smart organizations....dont make shifts when everything is already in the dumpster and may take yrs to get out of This has been a 3...now 4 yr degredation and no deviating really from the root cause, or the common issues/concerns that have led to the quick decline....If the band-aid needs to be ripped off and allow the heaing to happen then some of it needs to be done now....and similar issues or decline next...then G.M is next in cross hairs Players arent happy....some....the ones who know they safe due to recent history will chime in they want the band all back together...When your hometown star...bell cow RB nad face o team is saying show me you serious here or I am outta here...thats a huge red flag...And be clear....he's not the only one feeling this....just the one who was out front and frank about it...if you were watching and listening since last cup loss, and this yr...others have alluded to it...without pout right saying it 5 cup appearances...with the 2 wins eons ago now in the sports world but a constant slide in the wrong direction....and stubborn stupidity/blindness to it....but a lot of excuses....well the good will has long dried up saying...and actually doing tho...2 different things.....and history shows us he set in his ideal and ways...and why risk it with an extension only to maybe have to can him a yr into it and be on the hook for his salary...further delaying and hindering any quick turn around....just not worth the risk...I can see your point...But he has had ...2...3 yrs to turn it around....instead he has almost drove it into the dirt

Someone didnt like what he was serving lol

We can't drag our feet...that's part of the reason we had to settle with Hogan...also why we ended up missing on some FA's I think when Wade took over things shifted a bit in regards to the BOD He essentially has say over the football ops. He may run things by to get a feel or let em know..but football related stuff is his domain...the way it was before was why we were in the state we were Yeah..he has too much say...and no real feel on the pulse...and things coming out and rumblings I hear is his way on going about things in some instances doesn't sit as well as before...and interestingly enough more so with some vets

That would work with me in all honesty....nothing wrong at all in that scenario Osh has had 4 chances since 2021....and his decision in Hogan was the cherry on top of the shitsundae on how he goes about things...Players...coaches.... If we run it back as is.....we know a good majority of the less than stellar giys will be back....positions given...not earned....no deviation from anything if not working or optimal....insistence no to use all the rules afforded to us.....so yeah peob a write-off...casue in all honesty, why would we expect anything different?? Factor in other teams working to be better....Hi there 5th place

yup....some dominoes are gonna have to fall first...and any excessive feet dragging by us like before and we could be wandering the wilderness a bit Do we strike first and set the table and move on from Osh...Promote up JY now and then work from there?....Be a real kick to the nads to pussyfoot this...and have almost everyone defect...and with that...prob a lot of players as they see a sinking ship for a few yrs Will be interesting close to November for sure

please please lol Tell me you got the scoop hahahaha

yeah....he got done hard raw....Players were not happy about that as well I also think Bowman is also a up and comer and some of the new breed who could be around a while as a HC... Yup...He's quietly biding his time and is a guy who building a nice resume of experience there in Mtl and can see being plucked as there not much MTL can really do there for him uless they cut bait with some guys...which I can't see.....Maybe they move from Thorpe but I dont want him anywhere near here...As far as cancers go on a coaching staff...He's the poster child...Melanoma Head personified Mickey Donovam is also a guy who would be a good candidate for new blood somewhere....No Nonsense kinda guy...players love and respect...and will get best outta everyone....If there was an outlier off the radar kinda guy to give a shot to...in an already established culture like here...He's be a real good pick and I would be more than happy with him

Osh was a nobody coach when hired... You find a guy who has a brain and isnt limited in his capacity to use said brain..not a hard concept I don't think G.M is an issue here and be fine with Walters back..but a definite line needs to be established as to who the boss is and we lost that deliniation several yrs ago and well the obvious result of that takes us to now

And also won 2 of last 3 Cups under Dinwiddie...not his fault his team got gutted in FA last yr Id take him over Osh in a heartbeat Yeah...totally lost their dline...top reciever Coxie missed most yr...not Dinwiddie fault...he who has won 2 of last 3 cups...

Coach who plays no favorites....Utilizes the best players available to him, as well as the rules afforded to him, and won't play hurt players.....A coach where you need to earn your starter spot AND maintain said spot with your play....or you get replaced...That's my coach

yeah...Its a what have you done lately business to...The first few seasons were not good...we wrangled 2 cups...wedged between 4 failures now....and each year the degradation got worse from lack of any effort to stop it, but just relied on the past....so good will has long dried up All good coaches have an expiry...and really a lot of the credit heaped on Osh west soley just him....I certainly agree he was a huge part....but the culture..and everything about it was a collective effort...and Osh was chosen after meetings with Miller and Walter's to carry out where they wanted to go an he sold himself to them that he was the man and shared same vision....That is lost in all of this....Osh didnt create and bring in some super secret fancy new ideology here....it was basic football business to be successful....from a place where we had become totally inept and lost

18-18....but also one yr was thrust into the Als job what...like a week before season started???...Something like that...and then still got em 10-8...was OC for Hamilton that brought them to EF I believe...QB coach for Rider Grey cup win....I'd discount his Ottawa stuff as that is just a place to go and die....and was ultra bad when he was there...gets a Mulligan for that

that added to it...that also gets don to the coaching and lack there of...and minimal practices when you could have had more per week and not violated PA rules....and lack of actual focus and teachings of thihs in practice...just assuming things would "work out" Poor all around how this team was ran...and constructed Had a few seasons of top players...on their prime...on the cheap in some instances....and a better roster than the other teams...and they had a bit of success....let it all erode...got complacent and lazy...slide to the depths we at Almost 3 yrs ago i said it's coming...seen it before...been thru it....an if certain things continued we would see what has happened and quickly....and all the "yah buts" mean jackshit...and low and behold

is that like a doughnut....but different?

yup....arguably the worst defensive front in recent history...2 yrs running when you really look at it... Hopefully OC Guy just packs up his Volkswagen Beetle and leaves voluntarily...I dont know what he drives...But that's what I see him in

BO basically said he is in it to win it...and with that he wants to be in a place where the cast around him is a supporting cast...players and coaches to get it done....so effectively him being our marquee player without saying it as such "show me you ready to get real and do this right" or I'm taking my ball and going where someone else is Shot across the bow so to say and rightfully so, and good on him...Someone had to say it...

going to T.O would make him invisible

does need tweaking...and influx of talent But 3 man rush with some dirty dawgs is effective...especially with a Jack who is on search and destroy And DB's who dont get lost on a crowd of 9th graders

tho not sold originally...Miller too....up and comer....Patterson is solid and with what he had to work with did a stellar job...old schoolish lineage and smart and connected.... was OC guy even here??...lol Younger got casterated by roster....He deserves next yr with a real team to play under him

Yeah...Jones and JJ duo would be great in an innovative system and we would likely become a QB developing system.... I forgot about Hall....and really what a HC really needs to do, and take on...with the right co-ords it be easy for him....smarts....seen it all...relates to players...very non-disruptive

If he tries that....I'd promote JY immediately and give him full control of the defence...and it would be glorious