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Yea..but he has been drawing a crap load of double coverage.

Ouellette will be a big challenge for sure. Yea..we need to stop that but they have been pretty stingy in 2nd halves of games.

First place would help big time. Rotating personnel had a lot to do with it through the first few games, and lack of game film against new QBs has hurt us. We are not loaded with 20 year old speedster on our team. What makes our D really good is that they are veteran laden and rarely get tricked or caught out of position. Vet teams are more reliant on game film to make sure they are in the right position.

No one has more experience at doing so then our guys.

One thing about Richie Hall is that he is an exceptional cold weather coordinator. Part of that is offences simply can't do what they want that time of year. You gotta go back to fundamental football and that's when film study loses some of its importance and a good D game plan that focuses on what offences will have available to them becomes the trump card. No one knows that better than Hall.

He really wasn't that good of a QB imo.

Yes, from the moment the CFL put it on the schedule the outcome was never in doubt. Yea..Toronto is a deep, well coached team that is riding high. Not sure why everyone expected them to roll over and play dead. They are a system team and it allows them to stay competitive no matter who they field. We beat them and we deserved the win.

We won. It's nearly October and we were playing a really good team. We dominated nearly every metric of the game.

Your opinion. Period.

Kelly is a byproduct of a good set of players/coaches around him. The outcome would have been the same.

Great win. Toronto is a tough team.

Yep. Gotta be better in 2nd half. It's one half of football. Penalties extending drives and turnover handing them points and costing us. We are dominating them. Just need to clean some **** up.

Turnover creates a 6 or 10 point swing. We need to do that in the 2nd half.

Turnover creates a 6 or 10 point swing. We need to do that in the 2nd half. Turnover creates a 6 or 10 point swing. We need to do that in the 2nd half. Turnover creates a 6 or 10 point swing. We need to do that in the 2nd half. Turnover creates a 6 or 10 point swing. We need to do that in the 2nd half.

Our D is fine.

?? Our D is near or at the top of the league in just about every category. Yep..Janarion can't come back soon enough

I like Kap and he got screwed....but he cashed in on it too. He was a martyr but he sold out.

Toronto has no excuses. They are trying their best to create some...but nope....a loss will be a loss. If they lose tonight, it just shows weakness..in this case depth. Could be....they do kinda look like Huey, Dewey, and Louis when they face the press.

Totally agree. Motivation does not seem to be there as much as in past years. It is something they can get back in a hurry if the leaders in that room start now. Whatever our roster issues might be, I think if our current roster concentrates, focuses, and mentally/physically commits to winning every game there is no team that can hang with us.

Exactly right. Seems they may not be as focused as they need to be as well. I have a hard time buying into the age is a factor thing when we can completely dominate at any given time. If our problem was age related we would be getting worse as the season progresses and that's not the case as the Banjo Bowl clearly illustrated. It could be that the players just aren't as hungry after years of success. That is something they need to gut check within themselves.

The discussion here is not roster, it was about consistency. We've heard your views on the roster, and most of us agree on it. You are beating a dead horse with that. Also, consistency is our biggest issue, not roster. I am sure that your owners will be glad to cash them in lieu of attendance dollars but don't pretend that isn't sad for you, and sad for the CFL in general. Disgraceful really.

How could anyone know that. the Toronto media doesn't care about the Argos enough to report such a thing. Only found out about it when O'Shea came here to a city that GAF about CFL football. That being said, Argos should have stayed with it....maybe you wouldn't need the league to put in the fix for you guys every year. You are saying we were inconsistent towards the end of last year? Because that's the discussion....not roster.

Yep...most new OCs get the dead cat bounce simply because no one is sure what they are doing yet. Once the film piles up, that's when the rubber hit the road for them.

That's what I'm talking about. Love George Jones....well love may be overstating it, it's still country after all...but if I am in a room being forced to listen to country than yea....George Jones, Waylon Jennings etc.

I think Osh would fix them because that is his job, and he has clearly demonstrated an ability to do so. You guys sure have your **** tied in a knot about the capability of the league's best coach.