Doublezero

Look, it was Steinhauer who recruited an injury-plagued and ageing BLM and signed him to a 3-year $1.62 million deal. Young Taylor Powell is prob the best QB on that team right now. So ya, Hamilton braintrust lacking.

History will record BLM's final pass in the CFL was a pick.

Six out of 9 CFL teams (except Toronto, Hamilton & BC) will be after Dru Brown in Free Agency. Argos have Kelly and BC paid a steep price for VAJ last off season as replacement for Rourke. BC might kick some tires on Brown but I doubt they'll be serious contenders for his services. If Milanovich or Burris (or Buck Pierce) are HC In Sask, then as much as I would hate it, I could see Brown going there. In Alberta Dickenson knows Maier is hot garbage and Calgary will for sure make a play for Brown too. Yes, Edmonton has Tre Ford but Jones kept him on the bench forever and obviously prefers an American QB if possible. Dumb, but probable. Crum? Fajardo? Masoli? Brown potentially looks very appealing as a replacement for any of them so all 3 of those clubs will join in the Brown sweepstakes. That leaves Hamilton who might kick some tires on Brown but I think Taylor Powell will be their guy next season as he has actually been pretty good over there. All of this puts Bombers in a nice position when it comes to ceding neg rights for Brown. Makes we wonder why we don't make a real effort to keep Brown here, although, sadly, I don't expect it.

IMHO Bombers have to make a play for Dru Brown in the off season. I love Zach, MOP and eventual Hall of Famer, but Brown gets rid of the ball quicker, throws with more velocity, and is generally more accurate. If I could only keep only one of the two, Collaros or Brown, and had to let one of them get away ...

When a team like BC takes that many discipline penalties, it's on the coaching staff. Their D definitely were exposed as vulnerable to the run. A loss like that is not the way you want to go into the playoffs. I expect it'll be Calgary showing up at IG Field for the West final.

Here’s a hypothetical that has to do with sidelines and out of bounds placement/decisions: Let’s say in the future it’s Bombers vs Argos. Sergio Castillo attempts a 55 yard FG that unfortunately goes wide and lands 10 yards deep into the end zone but near the sideline. It’s fielded there by Argos returner Javon Leake. He spots a seam along the sideline and because our kick coverage hasn’t been great this season he darts 120 yards up the sideline and is untouched all the way into the Bombers end zone. He does not step out of bounds as he gallops all that distance. But the guy is such a hotdog that as he runs up the sideline he taunts the Bombers by holding the ball over the sideline marker - well over the plane of the sideline and out of bounds as he is running. He does this for the entire length of the amazing return. What is the result? Is it Touchdown for the Argos because he didn't step OOB, or Single for the Bombers because the ball was over the plane of the sideline and considered OOB from the moment the hotdog stuck the ball out there? (Bombers win this game BTW)

But if your foot is out of bounds, as you say, the play is dead, regardless of where the ball is. And as you say Adams was OOB before the stretch, hence placement at the point where he stepped out and ended the play. You could have 10 foot long arms and extend all you like but the ball would not be placed 10 feet ahead of where you stepped out. And of course the endzone pylon is different than the sideline. The pylon is considered to be in bounds, since the goal line stretches to infinity. As long as the player remains in bounds he can stretch for the goal line pylon and if the ball touches the pylon it's a TD! The amazing thing about Rasheed Bailey's pylon-diving TD last year was that he floated through the air for the final 5 yards before the ball reached the pylon And because he did not touch the ground with any part of his body, despite being over the plane of the sideline, it was a TD! Tom Higgins explains the rule https://www.cfl.ca/2009/08/19/td-attempts-is-the-pylon-in-play/

Let's keep it simple. The play is over when either 1) the player, or 2) the ball, goes out of bounds. So in this case, placement depends whether 1) the foot, or 2) the ball goes out of bounds first. If a player steps out of bounds first the spot is where he stepped out. If the ball goes out of bounds first (while the player remains in-bounds) then the spot is where the ball went out of bounds. In this case VA stepped out of bounds before the ball went out of bounds. Therefore the spot is where his foot was, since the play is dead at that point. There can never be a case where the placement of the spot is where the ball went out if the player previously stepped out.

When the foot goes out the play is dead. Doesn't matter where the ball is at that point. Can you show me where it says in the CFL rule book that placement is based on where the ball goes out and not the foot? I understand that this would apply to a goal-line play. In that instance it is only when the ball that crosses the plane of the goal that a score is recorded - that's whey you get players diving and extending the ball for the corner marker - like Sheed did so amazingly last year. But I'm not sure that applies anywhere else on the field. As I said, on the sideline for example, at the instant a player steps out of bounds the play is dead. Doesn't matter where the ball is because the play is dead. In this case, VA had already stepped out of bounds. The ball was still moving in the air during his stretch but that's irrelevant.

Agreed. it looks on the CFL.ca highlights as if VA's foot touched the sideline just shy of the 52. And they needed to get to the 53 for the 1st down so he was a full yard short. VA said he thought he stretched and got it - but I believe the rule for ball placement is at the spot where the player steps out of bounds - not where the the ball is when the player goes out of bounds. After all, he stepped out of bounds while the ball was in his hand and still in the air. And the play is dead at the instant the players foot touches the out of bounds mark. You can stretch all the way to Saskatoon, but the ball is no longer live or in play. Someone on the other forum was saying it should be marked where the ball goes out of bounds not where the foot goes out, but I think that would be incorrect (unless we are talking about the goal line). Sometimes, if there is some doubt, the officials will give the ball carrier some benefit and mark it half way between where a knee or foot goes down and the forward point of a stretch. But in this case the sideline official was right there to see exactly where VA's foot stepped on the sideline marker. And he correctly marked it there. Great tackle by Bighill, BTW.

It was rumoured they tried to move Schmidt over the summer and there were no takers due to his fat contract. Agreed Jets outplayed the Flames last night but as far as Schmidt is concerned it wasn't just that one icing play, he consistently coughs up the puck - 3 or 4 times last night alone. He's a major liability since he almost always struggles during the puck battle or shovels a soft pass that's easily picked. The weakest link. No doubt Heinola would have replaced him had the kid not been injured.

Time to send Nate Schmidt packing. Guy is just a turnover machine.

I was at the game, in the stands behind the bench 10 rows up. I watched him closely. Schoen was definitely nursing a "lower body" ouch when he came out of the game. He was mobile and walking on the sidelines, trying to keep the weight off and testing things - walking & trotting a little. I won't say any more than that, other than to venture that he would not have been effective had he gone back onto the field of play. Hopefully everyone is all healed up after the bye-week. The atmosphere during the game was amazing, by the way. Boisterous supportive crowd of Big Blue fans behind the Bombers bench. All the Bomber players noticed and definitely appreciated that support from the fans. Post-game victory chants echoed through BC Place for a long time as Bomber fans (lots of them) celebrated that exciting and important win!

Keep 'em guessing, is the idea there.

Big game. I'll be there with 6 more. We'll be cheering and wearing BLUE!

Chirping from the bench that it shouldve been a PI

Johnny Augustine should be in there

Oline isn't deciding to repeatedly desperation throw the ball into a pack of defenders

I don't know whats wrong with Collaros this season but something isn't right with him

Overthrow by Zach

Dumb throw. Saved by the flag

Neck re-injured? Pull him.

Zach better calm down. No more turnovers. He's getting happy feet again. He knows better but it a bad habit.

A break for the Bombers - D earned that turnover

Theres the Zach pick