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On 2020-06-28 at 1:19 PM, Floyd said:
Yeah I guess they would be worried that another player would test positives and the whole team will die just like the Ottawa senators - oh wait no one else got sick but the point remains... better safe than sorry
Maybe you’d like to suit up under the circumstances? Easy to sit at home and yell at the TV...no risk there. There are indications that there are potential long term adverse effects from the virus...one of those being respiratory damage...fairly significant for a pro athlete.....it isn’t about the low death risk...even though it is still a risk. Some players may have underlying health risks that they aren’t even aware of.
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Well what happens if the NHL and the PA send the agreement to the players to ratify and 10% vote it down and sat they won’t play?
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2 hours ago, Floyd said:
I’d be willing to bet that the delay is getting an eastern hub - all of your cities are still in covid hotspots
if wpg and sask are hubs - the season is already announced... I mean you could even bus players through to Edmonton and Calgary and still not have to worry about quarantine - Vancouver is probably just a shade too far
I think the notion that a hub is just that....and all games are played there. The league likely thinks if they have any hope for game attendance they need the eastern teams to have an eastern hub.
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1 hour ago, Floyd said:
Well teams don't sign guys if they're not planning on having a season...
Just make sure you don’t waste signing bonus money on them.....
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17 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
The CFL might not even exist if Braley hadn't saved the Ticats, the Lions and the Argos.
So very true.....I guess Braley’s take on his reality of the current situation of the CFL now makes him the enemy. He has a vested interest in the situation.
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19 minutes ago, Starman115 said:
I doubt there are any informed people who think the pandemic will be over this calendar year. Unfortunately the CFL is not at all in the same position as the other major pro sports leagues in North America. They are now in survival mode.No CFL team is going to make any money this year, if there is a season of any kind. It's more a case of trying to slow the bleeding with the hope of somehow getting through this, and moving forward post-pandemic. Yes, there will be great risk in playing a shortened season, and people will test positive.
On the other hand, to not have a season at all could put the league in even greater risk, with its future existence largely in the hands of government(s). So there are enormous risks either way. The CFL is in the unenviable position of trying to determine the overall most intelligent path forward without the benefit of necessary information right now to make a prudent decision for the fall.
It’s interesting how some hear are sounding like Trump....touting the need to open up the economy. Well look how opening up too quickly and not practicing wearing masks and social distancing is working there. NOT
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51 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
the biggest issue is going to be what happens if a player tests positive. I mean a bunch of tennis players just tested positive from a tournament, i have heard the pga has some cases... if you can't even do those without people getting g sick what hope does football have?
Thank you ! Better yet how many of the FANS dying for the return of football would risk their health and suit up? Honestly....you are now going to classify football players as frontline workers?
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46 minutes ago, Floyd said:
So a league that is financially treading water can just take a year off... okey dokey
annouce a labour day start and bust your ass to make it work - don’t announce nothing and sit there hemming and hawing
So what exactly is the plan? Clearly they are a long way from one...especially given there is no working relationship between the CFL and the PA. Next question...for this hypothetical Sept 1st start. How long in advance do you think it would take to logistically set up? I’ll give you a hint...I have been told by CFL personnel that July 1st is a critical target. That doesn’t factor in border issue, provincial and city health regulations, the possible isolation for 14 days of players. And here is the million dollar question? What are the plans when ( not if ) when people start testing positive...if you ever get this organized? People seem to not want to look at this situation from an objective, practical prospective. I get it ....fans want football.
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1 hour ago, Floyd said:
Obviously you’ve never run a business
Obviously you think wasting money on a venture that will get shutdown within a week or two is a sound business practice. MLB, NHL, and NBA ...even golf are having issues and they are only having informal workouts. Those leagues at least have more financial reserves than a league that is financially treating water.
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3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
They'll show up or they will be in violation of their contracts & won't get paid, I assume. I haven't heard one player say he won't show up in any league.
Not sure there in violation of a contract that based on the CBA really might be in legal peril and not binding. They can’t hold a golf tournament and small team workouts without people testing positive how are you ever going to have a football camp. I woman’s pro soccer team got suspended from league play in Florida because of positive tests.
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
My thoughts too. Wish they would just rip the band aid off and officially cancel the season. Ask the Gov for funds to keep the league a float. And start planning for 2021 which will still be heavily impacted by COVID.
I certainly hope they don’t waist a lot of money only to see things only being shutdown. It will be interesting to see how many of the players in the NBA, NHL, and MLB that are making huge $$$ balk and say they aren’t going to show up?
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Pro teams can’t even get to organized Training Camps and guys are testing positive....how do they think this ever works. Then you have football with a 1 ya LOS...guys huffing and puffing....how sensible is that?
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Tampa Bay Lighting had to close down their a Phase 2 start up due to multiple players and staff testing positive. The notion that pro sports are going to be able to operate is very suspect. Initiating any start up, and the expense associated with it only to have to shut it down maybe simply a waste of money at this point in time. This has to put up red flags.
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It was a reply to your poor poor assistant coach post....try and keep up.
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16 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Rookie Coach= Running Back Coach. Ask Buck Pierce where he started. Mark Mueller. Or Nik Lewis. They broke into the CFL as running back coaches. We all know Pierce did as well. Mark Mueller had little or no coaching experience but he was a U Sports qb. Fred Reid, former Bomber running back is the Argos backfield coach. He has no pro coaching experience. He was a HS head coach. There are other examples. RB Coach is considered entry level... on CFL teams. So, rookies.
Why do they get paid spit? You got it “no coaching experience”....and you get what you pay for. I guess that explains why all of a sudden you needed 12 coaches on a staff...lol.
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3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
What a clown show by both the league & the Players...
Signed contracts are to be submitted and registered within 24 hours of being signed. Unfortunately the practice of teams keeping “ contracts in the drawer “ still exists....Toronto recently got busted for it. Don’t blame the players. Contracts are signed in good faith by players.
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15 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Rookie assistant coaches don't make a lot of money. I'd say $50,000 is a safe bet. The more experienced & the longer you coach the more $$$ you make. I don't think you have any idea of the pay structure for coaches & videographers in the CFL. You just believe because it's pro football that automatically they are making big bucks which is not true. They also have no benefits. Sure Miller & Walters make a high income but Walters doesn't make anywhere near what Hufnagel does or what Chris Jones or Jim Popp did.
Well think what you like. Unfortunately you don’t know who I know or what I know about professional football and specifically the CFL. Your original statement said Assistant Coaches, not “rookies”... teams might hire some rookie intern to do grunt work, but if you check coaching rosters they are few and have between.
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3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
This isn't Loblaws. Fans aren't stupid & they'll figure it out soon enough. They know what is going on unlike the inner workings of a large private business. If Hufnagel's salary is $650,000 (low estimate) & he cuts it to $520,000 (20% cut) yet they still lay off two assistant coaches who make $50,000 each & he could have taken a further pay cut to get down to $420,000 to cover those 2 coaches salaries but refuses it still is money that counts towards the admin cap as well as operating expenses of the Stamps. he just gets more than anyone else.
Myself, I'm tired of seeing these CFL team Presidents, Head Coaches & GMs give themselves the big money while everyone else suffers. If anything good comes from this damned pandemic it's the end of paying guys like Hervey, Hufnagel & Jim Popp these outrageous big bucks. Look how much the Riders paid Chris Jones. The money needs to be spread around fairly.
You failed to mention Miller and Walters....you seriously don’t think they are making chump change....and don’t kid yourself there are no assistant coaches making $50,000. If someone wants to pay you $500,000 who is to blame....someone had to sign those contracts and agree to pay those sums. Fans might not be stupid but can you say the same for owners and BoDs that hire Presidents and GMs then?
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3 minutes ago, Floyd said:
i Don’t get this coaching cap... getting harder to retain good guys
People talk about how replaceable players are.....no different than coaches.....business , all businesses have to live within their means....if you don’t you fail.
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8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Guys like Hufnagel, Hervey & others have to bite the bullet. Not fair they draw such large salaries that even with a 30% pay cut they still make $300=400,000 a year while the videographer or an assistant coach on their teams making thousands less are let go. Bite the bullet. Total BS with upper management being overpaid.
Welcome to the reality world of business. Galen Weston of Loblaws / Superstore worth billions just cut back the pandemic raise increase as did Amazon. CEOs around the world got bonuses prior to government pandemic handouts. Your others exist on every business on every team, including the executives in the CFL office. REALITY !
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1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:Perhaps the players input should be also factored in as they are major stakeholders as well.
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2019-20 CFL Offseason
in Blue Bomber Discussion
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You think that he is the only player that might not play? Guess again.