CodyT

Read about 4 pages of that thread.. saw Spuds name, and wondered what happened to that poster?? Also, that thread is hilarious

100% youre right. There are many that cant be swayed and that is just ignorance. Those are the same people that cannot be swayed on anything and are SO self indulged that there is no point having dialogue with them However, I believe there is still a good number of reasonable people sitting on the fence who would be worth speaking too. When we see people getting called down and **** on because of their beliefs, or the misinformation theyve been given we only create more animosity. I understand people are fed up and tired of trying to turn these people. But like we believe we need to get the vaccine for the good of society, we need to take the same approach with those lingering no matter how pain staking it may be. It goes along way when people feel like you actually hear their concerns

Definitely. But that would be on a grand scale. When you have the right wing mob and trumpers forcing these anti vax thoughts down your throat, that's the result you get. One of the many problems with that is that thoughts with merit are drowned out in the wash because of these yahoos. The video I had posted here is good for a healthy discussion because it is evident the man is speaking from a place of worry and compassion. Some of what he says holds ground. We cant have that conversation because you have morons saying that this is nazi germany and it takes away any credibility from those actually trying to have an honest facts based discussion. Luckily I did have this conversation, because the main point I took out of his video was that he was skeptical of a mandate on kids being vaccinated. Tracker had said that their is no evidence to support his theory. But that is a conversation I think is worthy of more dialogue

No, I really did and do believe that the doctor had some merit and was speaking out in what he believes to be the right thing to do. Not with malicious or an evil agenda, not to tell people they are going to have a microchip planted in them. That being said; what I have taken out of this thread is that although his intentions and qualifications are there, that doesnt make him right. A reasonable person will welcome dialogue to mold their point of view. Weigh the information theyve gotten from both sides and make a choice. It is my belief that the vaccination is the BEST choice, although not ideal. Thanks to all for the information provided

Turns out, with some simple dialogue you can sway the opinions of others! Imagine. Ww2 started in 39 right?

Lol, I had written that out based on how hypocritcal it was to trust one mans word but not the other. I realized ive got a losing battle here so I let it go. So what happens if omicron is not covered by our vaccine? What steps do we take then? Start back at square one?

Nobody here is saying that? We havent even discussed the vaccine passports.

Thanks. I will take you at your word on that.

Did you watch the man speak? His biggest concern is mandating kids to get the vaccine. His view is their is evidence to suggest that this vaccine could be harmful to a childs heart. He could be right, he could be wrong. He is still practicing. I guess I am of the view that both sides of the coin should be discussed. Its interesting because in any other topic that would be an acceptable view. With something as important as what youre putting into your body I would figure people would want to have a discussion about it Thank you to the posters above for the links-- they are helpful

Who thinks that??? I think a lot of "anti" vaxxers concerns are that their hasnt been a health of a lot of time producing this thing. Correct me if im wrong but dont most vaccines take 3 + years to be rolled out properly?

Sure, I understand that. The effectiveness comes into question about 4 months in. Were having trouble getting people vaccinated now, wait until you need to get 5 or 6 jabs a year. I was referring to him saying that just the unvaccinated transmis the disease. The ironic thing is, I dont think anyone here discussing this isnt vaccinated. At this point were just having a conversation lol

Well you cant deny that hes a practicing doctor who was, in his heart, looking out for the best interests of his patients. My grandpa died of cancer last year. I did not enjoy not being able to see him until he was in palliative. I hear you. To me it is concerning that people are so fired up, to the point of taking personal shots, and attacking other people for even trying to have a respectful conversation.

Yes, I agree. Like I said before and after getting called an idiot 50x, I am pro vaccination. I am vaccinated myself. What I dont feel great about is forcing ideas amongst people. It makes me uneasy, and clearly a lot of other people too, that people are losing their jobs because they are forced to put something in their body. Especially when this vaccine has been put into question. Its not like pfiezer and fdc, cdc, have never ****** anything up before. Having the vaccine you can still transmit the virus and its effectiveness against other strains is suspect to say the least

Im glad you watched this. I believe he was refering to just his patients but I could be wrong. Does none of what he says seem credible to you?

Well he is a practicing doctor. 30 + years. It was removed from youtibe yes. Im not anti vaccination. What he says is sensible. Many of his patients were getting sick from the vaccine. He also talks about mandating kids to get the vaccine, that they are at such a low risk its actually unethical to have a perfectly healthy child get this specific jab. The guys not a conspiracy crazed person. Hes not anti vaccination either. Just has some concerns that he brings to light. I love how if you bring up any skepticism than your instantly labelled crazy or a conspiracy theorist.

At age 66, Yes I would agree the best decision for you would to be vaxxed. I dont think thats the case for all age ranges. Like I said, everyones situation and line of thinking is different and thats okay. Im not here to get into a vaccine debate, after all I have been vaccinated also. But im certainly not calling people selfish for making the choice they feel is best for them. I apologize if my comment was felt as a shot at you. I would encourage you to watch this video from a reputable doctor practicing in BC, a former Manitoba resident. He certainly changed my perspective on somethings. https://rumble.com/vpannr-heroes-no-longer-episode-2-dr-charles-hoffe.html”

Earning ... respect..round these parts

Im vaxxed... I dont find it selfish for people to not have complete faith in an experiment. Cant believe how many "yes sir, whatever you say sir" people there are. I understand peoples hesitancy to getting the vax. The situation depends on the person.

Dont ask questions you know the answer to

Fajardo sucks

Na na na na, na na na na...

Looked like a push off from me..

The bacon is no problem though

Who ****** cares

Im taking the bombers d in the 4th all day