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Doesn't work when the vets are a big part of the problem.

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Aye yi yi.... ******* Kyle Walters....

I'll be honest, I think you're selling some of those guys short. Not like going to jeffcoat and Willie in their prime, but they're decent players who can do more than we're getting now. I'm even fine with Vaughters and what he's doing, it's the other end and middle that I have big problems with.

And was still better than what they had been using previously

Still better than what we're trotting out. Give me a good rotation of placeholders vs. Lots and lots of washed up old boys.

Just think back to 2019 and 2021... they used 8 guys regularly in rotation on the DL who could contribute and it worked spectacularly. So why now do we think using basically 5 guys, 3 of which are well over 30 is going to be the answer?

Kramdi is already basically in a secondary position... cfl teams are mostly 2 linebackers these days and a bunch of dbs.

Griffin might be the best player in the secondary

Bullshit. Fox and garbutt as examples played well when they weren't on the ir. Problem is that they insisted on playing thrnold guys on dl and never truly used the youth. Even this year. Person gets a handful of reps, we keep Kornelson on the roster to take a handful of reps... we waste spots on special teams only guys as opposed to guys who can take reps on defense or offense as well as teams. The roster usage blows chunks.

Actually it's super easy! Barely and inconvenience! Our head coach uses his game day roster like **** a lotnof the times. So many times they dress guys who hardly take any snaps or in some cases don't even take any. Guys are other held accountable and don't make way for the depth to step up unless injury forces it. Honestly I've got more time for Walters than I do O'Shea right now. Better use of the players he does have would make a big difference in how games go.

Or passing game was suffering with Kenny last year too. Basically ever since summer 2 seasons ago the offense has been Brady dragging everyone along with him.

Well i thought they'd bounce back after a bye against the team that **** kicked them before... instead they pooped their pants so expect nothing.

Gross. I'd rather ride or die with streveler and mush brain zach than suffer through faj as starter.

But reality is they're probably talking about the pick 6 because it just looks so much worse.

But it's not his tun, those guys have seniority.

Well we've seen the same kinds of problems with multiple coordinators and the common denominator is osh... not sure why it's so hard for some people to accept that Mike O’Shea has flaws.

Haha I know I'm just being a troll.

Kramdi...

I don't know about losing the room, but he's probably still defaulting to the leaders policing... well problem is it's the leaders sucking because they're old. Osh needs to get in there and hold people accountable. It's complacency 100%. From the coaches to the players.

So it's inspired by Booch?

Still angry just thinking about it.

the list of guys who looked good the last 2 games is probably about 3 names long.

So what happened was you had a great team that was super tight and guys took a haircut to stay together... then some guys wanted to get paid so your depth took a hit but it was OK the vets were still good. What's happened now is the depth hasn't been given a chance to play and the coach won't change things up "because it's worked for 5 years " Sadly it seems like we're going to have to have a long losing streak for them to realize it doesn't work anymore.

The OL was beaten like a rented mule all night. Both qbs took a **** kicking. Not gonna do a lot of winning when losing the los