TBURGESS

I don't have any inside knowledge and I'm not pretending to either. The story the Bombers floated was that Muamba and Westerman are too expensive. If we have a bunch of SMS space, it wouldn't matter and either would have been upgrades over the guys we kept or brought in. The SMS was brought up when we decided that we didn't need to keep Bond and Heath, cuz those guys wanted to be paid. Part of the story that Walters told at his press conference was 'fitting' draft picks in under the SMS. Twitter folks have made several references to the Bombers not having much SMS room. Walters talked about how much 2 first rounders would have cost last year after he picked Gray who was going to the NFL. We picked up a lot of salary with Durant, Bowman, Fenner and the rest of the BC cuts. Certainly more than we got rid of with Bond, Heath, Westerman, Hurl and Denmark. BTW: Just cuz I don't love love love everything the Bombers do, doesn't mean that I hate 9 out of 10 things. For examples, I like that we didn't pay Westerman 240K, but hate that we didn't pony up 185K for Muamba. I think Bowman and Fenner are great additions, but hate that we paid a bunch of money for Durant who has been washed up for years. I like that we signed Demski, but hate that we overpaid him. I hate that we kept Richie Hall as DC.

Last year we had 2 first rounders, but didn't have the money for some reason to sign both, so we signed a guy with an NFL shot and let them train him. This year, we don't have enough money for some reason to sign any first round picks, so we trade ours away. Next year, we'll have 2 first rounders again. It's almost laughable to suggest that we will suddenly find the money to sign both of them.

Nope, but I'll bet we had most of the same top 11 as everyone else.

As it stands right now... Every other team gets to pick a player before we do. BC picks 2 and Hamilton picks 3 before we pick. Most, if not all, of the top 10 players are gone before we pick. It's good for us cuz we didn't want any of them and we'll have 2 1st rounders next year.

I saw that too, but which of the import D lineman do you take off of the AR if you put Bond back in last year after Westerman went down?

We did. Which import would you have taken off of the D line?

How and where would we have adjusted? Which NI would you start instead of Neuf? In other words... who was a better choice than Neuf for the last 6 games?

Didn't that have something to do with Westerman getting hurt and us adjusting the ratio?

Holy overreach Batman! Hopefully the dumbest thing I read today. No, I wasn't suggesting that they play 13. No, not playing isn't the new injured. No, that's not what I said at all. Go back and read it slowly this time. Just so you don't have to, I'll restate it again... Assuming that Neuf will be able to play 18 games this season without getting injured is a poor assumption, because (Read this part slowly) He's never done it in his 7 CFL seasons before this one. Just cuz you brought it up... They played Bond because he's way better than a healthy Neuf. Playing Neuf helps our ratio, but it doesn't make our O line better. In fact, it makes it worse if you believe the coaches who started Bond in front of Neuf last year and I do. Simply getting rid of Neuf would mean that we'd have the money to keep Westerman or bring in Muamba (Either would help our ratio even more than Neuf IMO). That doesn't even take into account that if Couture is really ready to start like and some folks around here believe he is, we'd be way better from a starting NI standpoint as we'd have 8.

Maybe this is the year that Neufeld actually plays and doesn't get injured. IIRC it would be the first time in his 7 going on 8 years in the league that's happened, so history isn't on his side. BTW: Playing 6 games isn't anywhere near playing the full 18 + Pre-Season + Playoffs.

ALL TEAMS UNDER CFL SALARY CAP IN 2017 - https://www.cfl.ca/2018/04/20/teams-cfl-salary-cap-2017/ Didn't everyone tell me that the Riders couldn't possibly be under the cap this year?

It's like basketball. All offense. Went a couple of times and couldn't stand it.

I think we're a bit worse than we were last year, but we still have the draft and the rookies to add so it's a work in progress.

Drew Edwards - @scratchingpost 19h19 hours ago #Riders drop QB Boykin from neg list after domestic violence allegation #CFL http://3downnation.com/2018/03/27/riders-neg-list-quarterback-trevone-boykin-accused-domestic-violence/ … #Q13FOX 11h11 hours ago Seahawks release QB Trevone Boykin amid domestic violence allegations http://bit.ly/2Ic2mGK At least the Riders did the right thing as soon as they heard about it, even before he was released by the Seahawks.

I'll guess that their will be a run on OL and we will choose an OL with our first pick too.

I'd take Simonise in the 3rd round if he's still available. Big bodied receivers who can run don't come around every day.

No, but you do make statements about incentives and how easy they are to hit.... Wouldn't Harris also get incentives. Cuz you seem confused: A range of 20-30K isn't called making a statement about exact contract values. It's called making a statement about a range with a couple of tweets to show where I got it from.

What are the incentives? How much for each? How easy are they to hit?

There's not 20-30K per player in playoff money. Max is 16K for winning the GC.

Jeff Hamilton‏ @jeffkhamilton Mar 21 - The #Bombers offered Henoc Muamba a contract around $170,000, plus incentives. Justin Dunk‏Verified account @JDunk12 Mar 20 - Henoc Muamba wanted to be paid more than #Bombers RB Andrew Harris, who is set to make just under $200,000 in hard money for the 2018 #CFL season That's 30K, but I also read that Harris made 190K this year, so 20-30K lower.

They probably lowered their offer when they found out that the Bombers are only willing to go $170K (FTR: 20-30K below Harris' salary).

His new team won't get a $35K discount just because Regina gave him that much for doing nothing. IMO, He's worth $190-200K, just like Westerman was. Next time you hire someone, go for the guy who got overpaid for his last job so you don't have to pay him as much, cuz he's already got it from someone else. See how that works for you.

Fixed it for you.

$190-200K for Muamba seems about right for a ratio breaking NI who plays like Import, especially one who plays a position that we need. I wonder what the Bombers think a 'strong pitch' is.

Talking about being dumb and not understanding... when I type "Are you saying", I am asking for clarification. Jones mistake was paying out 1 off season bonus before cutting Muamba. Other than that, he didn't do anything that other GM's don't do. If you didn't dislike him, you would treat him the same as the rest of the GM's. Again... If we need to cut someone to be able to afford Muamba, we will be doing the same thing. FTR: We've already signed 2 players (Durant and Bowman) who were cut by their teams (Not Jones) for SMS reasons when they were owed bonuses. Muamba would be the 3rd and we'd end up cutting a player who has already received his off season bonus.